SE - 2.2 is Going to Cost You Greatly

[Fayto]

i didnt understand anything you said except for the zodiac part. the "problem" with that weapon upgrade is that no one wants to do fates for a chance to get a drop. for alternate weapons, its not doable first week because of coil lockout and with no one knowing where sands of time drop, everyone is going to be "stuck" at ilvl100 wep wise. the levi weapons are another alternative, but to upgrade those requires another random drop that is also rare. yes you can farm it out as much as you want, but if you go 50/50 fights and it doesnt drop, its disheartning.

So everything requires farming for an item that is rare... The problem?

[Kaze3434]

So everything requires farming for an item that is rare... The problem?

the farming part? nothing. the abysmally low chance people have to have the items drop? everything to some people. i got my first 4 rather fast. im stuck at 7 now. do i hate it? yes, but im going to keep at it until my friends sign in so we can do coils/levex.

[Teratel]

I think the disdain for FATEs and Atma farming is people doing it in a way SE did not intend. The FATE system was meant to be one in which people would do as they popped up and were near one while leveling. It was meant to be a detour from quest grinding. It turned into a hunt fest when people realized that it was the most efficient way to level at the time. It seems getting the Atma crystals was not meant for people to go FATE to FATE for hours on end at a time. It is designed for people to try for a while and then move on to something else for a while. The Atma relic was never meant for everyone to have, nor for people to get immediately but was meant to be something people could do when there was nothing else to do at the time. If played the way it was designed, Atma farming wouldn't be so bad even though it might take weeks to get 1 relic upgraded to Atma. Try and think of how content was designed to be played and you might find it is more enjoyable that way.