SE - 2.2 is Going to Cost You Greatly

[Edellis]

I'm on the forums and I still pay with a glimmer of hope (because 15$ is chump change). However, I haven't logged in to the game in over a month.

You are wasting your money then. Go spend it on something that makes you happy. Seriously. If you're that disappointed in the game, im sorry to break this to you, but you always will be. It's not going to magically change for you.


No amount of whining is going to make this game any less successful, no amount of doomsaying is going to "make the game suffer", no amount of forum topics is going to open anyone's eyes to your opinion. Just stop man.

[Doo]

No amount of whining is going to make this game any less successful, no amount of doomsaying is going to "make the game suffer", no amount of forum topics is going to open anyone's eyes to your opinion. Just stop man.

And no amount of whining about others whining will change what they decide to do.

[Kirosuu]

k bye, see you on the forums tomorrow, and the next day, and in 2.3, and in 2.4...

i like you for this

[devilzpawn]

why is there so much hate( i guess everybody is trying to be some anithero martyr, look at me ... etc). All i know if i dont like something i dont do it(unless its my job and im getting paid). I do not like 1st person shooters and guess what .... I dont play them, hard to believe. I can only imagine the rage is this was like old school ffxi where it took an entire ls upwards a year(when cap was lvl 75) to get only one person a relic(usually the ls leader).

[PixelPirate]

I'd like to see a census of the userbase. How many people have actually done even half of the endgame content by now? How many people actually do grind Coil or Labyrinth or Crystal Tower on a daily, or semi-weekly or even weekly basis? What percentage of the userbase does that particular demographic represent?

Do a few google searches and you'll see pretty quickly that end-gamers, hardcore players, and even the number of people who use official game forums is less than 10-15% of any MMO subscriber base. Basically, they are the 1%, yet they screech, howl, and moan louder than the other 85-90% of all other players. The real question is: Do you really think the 10-15% are capable of accepting the reality that they are the extreme minority???

[Bigpurpleharness]

My only complaint is that my schedule is a 24/48. I can devote time to this game, but there are 0 groups who use that schedule. After trying to recruit for a week and not getting a bite, I settled into accepting that I won't really get a static group for anything, which made anything past Turn 2 not worth the headache for me. I could however grind myth and try to PUG as my patience allowed and make some progress towards having a comparable set, even if it was sub-par to allagan most of the time for my main. Now with 2.2, that's pretty much done. I can now devote twice the time for less reward. But a guy in a LS I'm in didn't know regen was the most MP effecient ST cure WHMs have, or medica 2 only beats medica if the regen is taking effect now has some new allagan gear week 1.

I'm not really sure how I feel about putting in much more effort but falling behind (Not even hey I'm using myth neck instead of allagan since I can't get the BiS) terrible players simply due to the fact I can't find a group that's a 24/48 schedule. I'm OK with not having the best stuff, in 2.1 a character who did coil would have better gear than one that didn't, even if their ilvl was the same. In 2.2 you simply don't stand a chance without a group, and that's discouraging.

[LunarEmerald]

So far every time the community has complained about something, it was changed

[Gramul]

So far every time the community has complained about something, it was changed

This is hardly true, but it's very clear they do pay attention.

On point with the main complaint of atma, I really don't see where the idea that it needs to be done comes from. Far as I understand, there is other gear that's actually even more powerful. Why pursue the upgradable weapon with full force if it doesn't interest you? Yes you will be able to upgrade it more with each patch, but presumably they will also have stronger gear from dungeons, crafting, and primal fights.

I feel like people are putting far too much focus on it.

[Kirosuu]

they cant
these hardcore want something different from casual in term how equipment look after 2.2, non echo dungeon bec they want to queue solo duty finder with random casual for challenge although he/she overgear, powerful equipment that can only be access by hardest dungeon and not can be access by everyone like zodiark weapon, and dont forget zodiark weapon with full upgrade that can be get within 1 hour bec they dont have time to play (you know "busy irl" thing)

they also cant grind new coil bec the video how to beat not even release yet bec these hardcore dont have requirement to watch video before join. thats why they want special right to get zodiark weapon

[Kaze3434]

they also cant grind new coil bec the video how to beat not even release yet bec these hardcore dont have requirement to watch video before join. thats why they want special right to get zodiark weapon

i didnt understand anything you said except for the zodiac part. the "problem" with that weapon upgrade is that no one wants to do fates for a chance to get a drop. for alternate weapons, its not doable first week because of coil lockout and with no one knowing where sands of time drop, everyone is going to be "stuck" at ilvl100 wep wise. the levi weapons are another alternative, but to upgrade those requires another random drop that is also rare. yes you can farm it out as much as you want, but if you go 50/50 fights and it doesnt drop, its disheartning.