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    DeadRiser's Avatar
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuga View Post
    Sure I did. That's a class balancing issue, not a toggle issue. MP/Hate balancing I can dig, I'm all for that. However whether or not we can toggle, it would still be an issue. Hence why it has nothing to do with toggle, and is otherwise off topic.

    Like I said, balance crutch.
    No No NO. If there is near infinite MP consumption, it would affect AoE toggle if it was on or off. People will still use the AoE spells if they do not fix hate, the amount of mp consumed, and the amount of damage/heal it actually does. So in a way, yes it does.
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    Tsuga Lem
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    No No NO. If there is near infinite MP consumption, it would affect AoE toggle if it was on or off. People will still use the AoE spells if they do not fix hate, the amount of mp consumed, and the amount of damage/heal it actually does. So in a way, yes it does.
    You're right in that Hate, MP, and damage spread need to be addressed, BECAUSE we have a near infinite supply of MP. NOT because of toggle. If people still lean on toggle after adjustments, then they will a) die from aggro b) waste all of their MP and subsequently die because their entire party just wiped and c) have no friends.

    Basically if the game is balanced right, whether or not we have toggle we will still have AoE, and nothing is stopping people from spamming AoE as long as we have it. By your logic the solution would be to take AoE away all together, because it has nothing to do with using toggle, and everything to do with spamming AoE - Which is still avoiding the fact that the issue you keep bringing up is an issue of balance, not whether or not AoE toggle is an effective means by which to use AoE spells, and is basically off topic. I don't mind if you want to lean on that crutch, though, you just aren't making any valid points against toggle when you do.
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    Frisque Isamidget
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuga View Post
    b) waste all of their MP and subsequently die because their entire party just wiped and c) have no friends.
    Wipe = Tsuga doesn't love me anymore?!

    *runs away crying*
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    Tsuga Lem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frisque View Post
    Wipe = Tsuga doesn't love me anymore?!

    *runs away crying*
    Nah, you're too PRO.

    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePie View Post
    Oh you mean like AM, Shadowsear, and other abilities that are specific to jobs? It is already there. Useful tool being removed for no reason.
    QFT.
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