Zodiac Quests

[Mikedizzy]

This is not whining...this is common sense and their version of grinding is total and utter bull poop. Is that really an accomplishment to some people: I am such a friggin' loser that I can afford to spend all day playing this frigging game, all night and all day. It should be more skill based to get these items...how about that?! Or a grind that has some end in sight...that would be nice. You can literally play for 6 months and not get even one of these 12 items if you are really unlucky....that is just poor...poor design. You are already faced with this on T5 where you can beat Twin 100 times and never get your weapon...I think if you beat her so many times you should just get it...come on now...what the hell are we trying to prove here?????????????

[CamAlch]

it's insulting that any developer would think I've got so much time to spare, and am so desperate for minor achievements, that I'd sit and replay content they'd already given me literally hundreds of times just for the completely random chance that something will drop. With no other reward except the drop - no chance to level an alt, nothing.

I don't think you have a very strong grasp on what it means to insult someone. This is not insulting. Is it a poor design choice in a quest? Sure. But its hardly an insult, if you don't want to do it then don't. You can't go around saying any piece of content you dislike is an insult.

This is not whining...this is common sense and their version of grinding is total and utter bull poop. Is that really an accomplishment to some people: I am such a friggin' loser that I can afford to spend all day playing this frigging game, all night and all day. It should be more skill based to get these items...how about that?! Or a grind that has some end in sight...that would be nice. You can literally play for 6 months and not get even one of these 12 items if you are really unlucky....that is just poor...poor design. You are already faced with this on T5 where you can beat Twin 100 times and never get your weapon...I think if you beat her so many times you should just get it...come on now...what the hell are we trying to prove here?????????????

The sad thing is that no matter what design SE created in this quest, there would be herds of people complaining because they can't get their hands on it fast enough. The instant gratification generation. I have news for you friend, MMO's were built upon many of the things you are complaining about. Time investment has always been a strong component in this type of game.

The only issue with this quest is that it was a re-hash of existing FATES. Drop rate makes sense to me but I agree that they should have at least tried to introduce some new FATES into the mix to break up the monotony.