whoa... haha

[ulti_19]

So after months of bitching about not having content, needing more hardcore grinds to get stuff, etc, many users;

A) bitch about not being able to do all the new content in 5 hours... seriously.

b) bitch content is too much of a grind even though same peeps complained everything is too simple and just handed away before.

c) bitch some more, possibly about anything and everything

My advice it just quit the game already, you will never be happy

[chocomaid]

I know you mean well ( I think ), but bitching about bitching is mind blowing.

[Nayto]

take out FATEs, make the game center around levequests again.

That's what the community wants.

#communitylikesrunningaroundincircles

which community want again?

Exactly. Don't know what you want, and never will.

[Mogi]

I saw it coming lol just was thinking it be at least 2 weeks but ppl can't help them self

[RyuDragnier]

So after months of bitching about not having content, needing more hardcore grinds to get stuff, etc, many users;

A) bitch about not being able to do all the new content in 5 hours... seriously.

b) bitch content is too much of a grind even though same peeps complained everything is too simple and just handed away before.

c) bitch some more, possibly about anything and everything

My advice it just quit the game already, you will never be happy

My only problem is with Step 1 of the Zodiac thing...the RNG FATEs. Step 2 requires buying a book, and completing all objectives within, which could probably take 2-3 days. You have to do that 9 times, meaning it'd take at least a month to complete all that. Step 2 is a way better version of doing it than Step 1 due to it being skill based, and I encourage more of Step 2...but Step 1's RNG can be dropped like a rock, there's a reason people don't like it (it's luck based, 'nuff said).

[Kirosuu]

take out FATEs, make the game center around levequests again.

That's what the community wants.

#communitylikesrunningaroundincircles

which community want again?

[Gramul]

Pretty sure these aren't the same people.
The content tend to be more quiet than the upset.

That aside, I'm pleased with this direction as I've never really disliked FATES.

[Radxen]

I'm with Gramul on that one, I actually enjoy FATEs, it's how I managed to level most of my classes since I got tired of waiting on instances.

And I find the new content awesome, I did complain about certain things before but it feels like SE really listened on this one. The rare and powerful weapons and armor are really starting to feel rare and powerful, where before it everyone and their mother was able to get these powerful items with close to no effort.

I'm not really a big fan of the retainer ventures but since I'm not forced to use them I'm alright.

[Delorean]

b) bitch content is too much of a grind even though same peeps complained everything is too simple and just handed away before.

You must be mistaken, I don't recall anyone asking for a 2% droprate on enough fate grinding to level another class.

If anything, this is a lot more simple than memorizing boss attack patterns.

where before it everyone and their mother was able to get these powerful items with close to no effort.

I'm not sure that I could recognize something I could do while watching a movie or a sports game as something that requires a lot of effort.

in a FATE you can literally just hit 1111111111111 until you win.

[Estellios]

I don't mind this since my FC members and I can do this part at our own pace. I'm personally running whatever FATEs I run across while gathering from the new nodes or doing the new beastmen quests. Was kinda surprised since I thought at least one person would have really hated it. I guess it just works better when you are ok with doing stuff in moderation. We have a ton of stuff to do with this patch, anyway. That said I wouldn't mind if they changed it to be a set amount instead of random.

I'm not really a big fan of the retainer ventures but since I'm not forced to use them I'm alright.

Hey man, if they can get shards while I'm off doing stuff then it gets a thumbs up in my book =P