whoa... haha

[Nutz]

I was giving it a chance and all, and I suppose I'll have to just go with it, but after doing FATES for a couple of hours (I'm not as dedicated as a lot of you) and seeing no drops I began to wonder just how long it can take to not really upgrade your weapon. Though it would have appeared to be more work if the description were worded this way, I'd much prefer something along the lines of 'Complete every FATE in the game'. The terrible drop rate instills this very annoying sense that you could spend the entire day working on this without making any progress at all due entirely to bad luck. I think they need to tweak it somehow. Maybe a growing drop rate (even starting at 0% and going up 1% each FATE would be nice).

[prymortal]

So after months of bitching about not having content, needing more hardcore grinds to get stuff, etc, many users;

A) bitch about not being able to do all the new content in 5 hours... seriously.

b) bitch content is too much of a grind even though same peeps complained everything is too simple and just handed away before.

c) bitch some more, possibly about anything and everything

My advice it just quit the game already, you will never be happy

You might find if you pay attenchion many of the ones bitching are the ones that asked them not to do it.
But yes there are many of the ones asking for it bitching about it as well As we warned them they would.

[Yumi_umi]

It's really discouraging when the guy beside u gets an atmas piece and says oh lol r these rare?
And thn ur like but its not fair.... I've been grinding for 7 hours and have not gotten it!!!
Some guy could easily just get all 12 pieces in a day and be like wow that was easy! ( super lucky mr. Rng )
And the guy next to him could have been grinding hours and hours everyday to only have like 2 pieces.
So imo this is the real Coil rng at its finest!
Perhaps this Coil 3rd lol
But it'd also be a real slap to the face if someone finally got 12 pieces after all that hard work to just find out that they increased drop rates to 10% after a patch.

[jlewiss]

I never thought I'd see the day when I would use diablo 3 as a guideline for something positive but here I am. The basically have a failsafe in that game that ensures if after something like 6 hours you dont get legendary item drop the failsafe goes oh they should have gotten one by now we are going to make the next item that drops legendary. I also believe that at set increments they increase your chance of a legendary item dropping up until you hit the failsafe. Something like 12 hours feels like a good failsafe to me

[Zumi]

Servers seem much more alive now with everyone running around trying to do fates for relics.

[XNihili]

Why are people complaining about abysmal and unfair RNG ?
It's the core of FFXI and we know that FFXI is the best MMORPG of all time, right ? Right ?

[Starkbeaumont]

tc, keep in mind it's not the same ppl bitching about that stuff. 1 fraction is happy, doesn't post anything. next patch this fraction is pissed, starts posting, original bitchers enjoy the game, no time for posting on the forums

[ReiszRie]

Players says FF14 super casual cause nothing takes time, says teleport is bad cause it doesn't take time, says AF gear and Relic too easy and fast to attain, says leveling is too easy and fast, suggest to bring back heavy grinding of old MMOs

Players now complain that Relic Animus quest too tedious and time intensive.

Lol