Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Pibz]

We obviously have different definitions of work :/ Waiting in a spot for a fate to spawn whilest tabbing out, and having netflix running on half my screen while I run around spamming flash mindlessly doesn't really count as work to me. Just mind-numbing tedium I thought I'd gotten away from.... oh well, it is what it is. Let's not pretend it's hard though.

Not to mention this is totally FFXI, pointing out one option that XI had in abyssea doesn't change the fact that everything else in FFXI was exactly the same, waiting around doing nothing until something pops then kill it and pray the RNG gods are on your side. FFXI at it's finest. These people asked for it, they got it. lol Get to work I say!!!!

At least read up/go see How it works...

You don't wait for anything, all fates in a given area can drop the atma...

Also to all those complaining NO ONE is forcing you to do this, this is one of 3 ilvl100 weapons and its not even close to being the best in the game atm.
What's wrong with having something that takes time and effort to get? Not everything needs to be spoonfed.

[Bizniztyme]

At least read up/go see How it works...

You don't wait for anything, all fates in a given area can drop the atma...

Also to all those complaining NO ONE is forcing you to do this, this is one of 3 ilvl100 weapons and its not even close to being the best in the game atm.
What's wrong with having something that takes time and effort to get? Not everything needs to be spoonfed.

Sorry, i'm not complaining, just laughing at the people raging that's all. I actually like it, I will definitely be working on these.

[Pibz]

Sorry, i'm not complaining, just laughing at the people raging that's all. I actually like it, I will definitely be working on these.

Sorry misunderstood my bad

[Tam_Hawkins]

A question concerning the ATMA items:
Do I Need all 12 items for one upgrade or is one enough? And if one is enough is there a difference in the upgraded weapon depending on which item i used (so 12 possible atma weapons per Job?)

Thanks for the answers

You need all 12

Thanks for the fast answer

[Pibz]

A question concerning the ATMA items:
Do I Need all 12 items for one upgrade or is one enough? And if one is enough is there a difference in the upgraded weapon depending on which item i used (so 12 possible atma weapons per Job?)

Thanks for the answers

You need all 12

[Benjif]

It really makes me laugh that people are crying about this, one day into it. Obviously never played FFXI. The 75 relics weapons took YEARS to get. YEARS to farm and save the MILLIONS of gil to buy the items!!! If you want some instant gratification go play some FTP/PTW game.

[CSX]

Can't really compare this to XI, because Dynamis was fun, well for me anyways. You got to sit there in Zone with like 40+ people talking it up, lulzing (or raging) at bad pulls just having a good time. This though, while it isn't as bad as other games I've played; kinda sucks. . .It's so boring my mind went numb. . .like literally it went numb, I couldn't feel my head. Sigh. . .

[Mitternacht]

It really makes me laugh that people are crying about this, one day into it. Obviously never played FFXI. The 75 relics weapons took YEARS to get. YEARS to farm and save the MILLIONS of gil to buy the items!!! If you want some instant gratification go play some FTP/PTW game.

Just because one bad thing is not as bad as something else doesn't make it good.

Given how they want to throttle progression on this and only use existing mechanics there's not a lot of options in terms of implementation. However having made it say, do 50-100 FATEs in twelve different zones would still have people complaining (about grinding) but at least when someone spent time on it they'd have something to show for it. Also, the RNG is a terrible throttling mechanic since obviously some people get really really lucky and finish in a relatively trivial amount of time (there's a paladin on reddit that completed Atmas in only 10~12 hours) and some people get really really unlucky and may not see all of them two to three months from now.

Telling people to go to a F2P game... skewed lottery mechanics and insipid RNG grinds are the hallmarks of said games.

[Benjif]

Just because one bad thing is not as bad as something else doesn't make it good.

Telling people to go to a F2P game... skewed lottery mechanics and insipid RNG grinds are the hallmarks of said games.

My comparison was really about the time involved. I dont think i ever once heard someone complain about the time/gil sink from xi Relics. In fact it was so difficult to achieve that it eliminated the possibility of a large portion of the player base from ever getting. But still, no one complained. SE makes it possible for ANYONE to get these zodiacs, with a bit of TIME involved and people break out the torches and pitchforks. As well my comment to FTP/PTW was that you are allowed to just waltz on in, buy the best gear (with your cash) and get to work. Which is apparently what folks want, because they don't want to invest any time into working for it.

[Sunarie]

Which is apparently what folks want, because they don't want to invest any time into working for it.

I disagree. I think plenty of people are like myself, who have no problem at all with the time involved. We actually like step two of the quest which is going to take considerably longer. What we don't like is the FATE portion of it because that is low level and mindless. Doesn't require coordination, grouping, or even knowledge of any class. It reduces people to spamming a single button or two for hours on end with little to no thought involved. I wouldn't be surprised if most people were watching Netflix (which is what I do) while FATE grinding. You don't have to pay attention at all. It's not engaging. So.. I would say all us against the FATES are likely willing to actually put more time in versus people who want the FATE grind cause it's easier than say.. grinding dungeon tomes (which, even if it gets boring, still requires you to pay at least a bit of attention to perform decent).