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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
    Sorry I don't agree like I said before, if he wanted to wear a dress then he should of chose a female character.

    Devs have the right to say no like everyone else does, I find it funny that people want to be accepted and they are but when someone says to them No they can't accept that and throw a huge tantrum like a little kid who begs for candy and doesn't get what they want and kicks and screams on the floor.

    It has nothing to do with discrimination or that they are against gays or cross dressers, they just don't allow it in their game and you need to accept that if you believe in equal rights simple as that. because if you don't then your equal rights crap you talk about is a lie how can it be equal if you get everything you wanted and others do not serious.
    Claiming that it's not equal because you don't get your way when it comes to being able to discriminate against someone is not a sound principle to base your argument on. Equal rights does not mean everyone gets everything their way all the time. It means everyone has the freedom to live as who they are openly without discrimination, with full access to the same rights that every one else has access to. Disallowing someone to be able to do something because of who they are or disallowing because it's not something you agree with is not such a right. It's not a right of any kind at all, in fact. People have a right to think that something is not right, and even express that belief, but they don't have a right to actually make those thoughts a reality that disenfranchises others of actual rights.

    Your statement that LGBT people want to get everything their way is also false, and shows your bias. We don't want everything to go our way all the time. We just want to be able to do everything that the majority is able to do in the manner that makes sense for us and be able to do it without facing discrimination.

    For example, straight people can get married to each other in real life and in games with no questions asked, but gay people are denied being able to marry each other in both arenas on a daily basis. And even those who are able to be married continuously deal with people reacting poorly to their use of terms such as 'my husband' and 'my wife' to describe their significant others such as denying them services when they find out they are a same-sex couple. And more to the point of this thread, straight and cis people are able to dress in ways that match their identity without anyone batting an eyelash. But trans and gender-queer people have to deal with hostile stares and comments on a daily basis simply because their clothing and gender expression does not conform to what most people perceive as normal. And the number of trans people who are fired every year because of beginning their transition is staggering.

    All we are asking for is that we be allowed to do these things in the first place and without being treated as less than when we are allowed to do them. None of this prevents others from being allowed to do these same things in a way consistent with their own identity. Us gaining our rights does not diminish your rights. It's not a zero sum equation. It's a boundless pool of equality. It is specifically for this reason that I know history will be on our side, and not those who wish to limit the rights of LGBT people.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 03-27-2014 at 06:03 PM.