Lack of tanks in the game

[Pizzaparty7]

Tank shortage makes tank a great role. They need you more than you need them. Don't worry about gear. Outside of your weapon, gear has minimal impact until 50. Just do your best to hold hate and not die. If the group doesn't like the job you do, let them kick you or leave. Either way, you'll have a new group ages before they do.

later when you are geared and speed pull dungeons, those same players will kiss your armored butt in appreciation!

[Darkduck]

People play the roles they want. Tanking is as much a skill as an artform, and yes, there is some small improvements needed to the tank classes, in particular is the threat generated by a fresh level 50 in a level 50 dungeon with a blackmage, summoner, etc who has been doing raiding.

Basically if you are new to the level 50 tanking role, and you are trying to gear up, there is no way in hell you can hold threat on a geared BM or Summoner, or hell even some of the geared healers. So this is where it gets tough. That is my main issue, the other issues lie in I feel traits like "Oath of Shield" should be open to you from say 30 plus.

I find most of the problems is that DPS just don't care alot of the times.

[Meepinator]

My tank hasn't hit 50 yet, but I haven't had any huge problems with my Warrior. Holding hate wasn't ever too difficult, and I definitely wouldn't want it to get too easy.

Tanking just isn't everybody's cup of tea, for different reasons. Some think it's boring, some dislike the current tanking class' aesthetics, and some think it's too much pressure. Point being, many people simply don't want to play as tanks. I don't think baiting people with rewards to play classes they don't really want to play in the first place is the right way to go. Instead, they should make the class itself more appealing, but not by making things too easy.

As for rudeness, I've had my fair share of mistakes, but so far everybody has been understanding and kind. I've yet to have anybody be a complete jerk to me. I've gotten good advice.

[Daniolaut]

I"m sorry to say I main Paladin and every time i come into the forums and see people talking about tanks its quite disturbing. The lack of skill most DPS players have and the suggestions made by other tanks is quite insane.

People say titan hard mode is easiest on Paladin, while i felt that fight was ~insanely~ much much easier on monk.

The reason people dont play tank jobs is because most people lack the skill. If they made tanking easy then people like myself would be massively disappointed, more so than i am already after patch 2.1 with the boost in enmity gain, but also then tanking truly would be boring and no one would want to play it.

My suggestion to increase tanks is giving more bonuses to tanks via things like duty finder or other such bonuses. Give me all the stuffs, yes please

[FurryFury]

Basically if you are new to the level 50 tanking role, and you are trying to gear up, there is no way in hell you can hold threat on a geared BM or Summoner

You can just tell them "guys don't rush, i'm fresh 50" and thats it. PLD with GC weapon can easily hold aggro on relic-toting BLM, given a few seconds to raise threat. Even if you lose aggro after several hard nukes, mob will almost dead already.

People say titan hard mode is easiest on Paladin, while i felt that fight was ~insanely~ much much easier on monk.

How come? Tank job on Titan HM just "standing there", literally, and smack 1-2-3 till post-heart. Then add one defensive CD at start of the phase and after each Landslide.

The reason people dont play tank jobs is because most people lack the skill.

The only time some skill is really needed, its in high-end dungeons and Ex primals. But then everyone need skill, not just tanks.

[JeTaisNoobie]

You can just tell them "guys don't rush, i'm fresh 50" and thats it. PLD with GC weapon can easily hold aggro on relic-toting BLM, given a few seconds to raise threat. Even if you lose aggro after several hard nukes, mob will almost dead already.


How come? Tank job on Titan HM just "standing there", literally, and smack 1-2-3 till post-heart. Then add one defensive CD at start of the phase and after each Landslide.


The only time some skill is really needed, its in high-end dungeons and Ex primals. But then everyone need skill, not just tanks.

says the guy with a bard as a main class! lol!

[FurryFury]

says the guy with a bard as a main class! lol!

Yeah, so what's your point? I've tanked all up to Coil/Ex primals on my alt job. Not that hard, really.

[JeTaisNoobie]

Yeah, so what's your point? I've tanked all up to Coil/Ex primals on my alt job. Not that hard, really.

I wasn't questioning your ability to tank. Think about it man.

[Set]

I don't agree with the approach of throwing gil and exp at people to make them want to tank and I think it can cause some issues.
1. The pointer in the game is to play what you think is fun, not fill in the gaps with a class you don't enjoy.
2. This is stacking favour more and more into tanks favour which is making it where people like myself are getting more and more advantages while DPS still stick to the disadvantage of waiting and or not finding a group.
3. I don't think it will solve the issue of needing 25% of the game population to be a tank even with the tank jobs being 2/9(22%) of the jobs. Also in the future there will most likely be more DPS and not as many tanks so that ratio will most likely fall.

[Jitenshazuki]

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There are plenty of tanks in game. But there's no reason to schedule for the easy content as time/reward ratio is way too low. And there's little sense to schedule for hard content with randoms as try/success ratio is way too low.