I'm mad about something, and you should hear about it.

[NoloeTazier]

Odin isn't considered a primal in this game. (by lore means anyway). Or at least, I don't think he is....

He's an Elder Primal.

[Merle]

Then wouldn't Behemoth be an Elder Primal too? Infact wouldn't any big fate boss be a Elder Primal then by this logic such as Cancer the crab?

Mmmm nope, they're just..... big monsters o.o Thats why i hate Odin's FATE... is degrading for him

[NoloeTazier]

Then wouldn't Behemoth be an Elder Primal too? Infact wouldn't any big fate boss be a Elder Primal then by this logic such as Cancer the crab?

What? FATEs have nothing to do with being an Elder Primal. It's based on the Lore history, Odin's Lore history is that he's an Elder Primal. It seems the difference between Elder Primals and Primals is that Primals need crystals to be summoned and when defeated that aether returns to the land (or partially). For Elder Primals it's clearly not the case as both Odin and Bahamut were not killed and had to be sealed, yes we defeat Odin in the FATE but Odin is an odd case and the entire story of his being hasn't been explained yet, just theories atm (such as why he changes forms to those that defeat him).

Edit: As for Behemoth, they're merely strong monsters in Eorzea.

[BobbinT]

I am pissed Fat Chocobo is a mount not a summon/primal. It is from FF-VII. Hear my anger ....

I'm even more pissed when Fat choco becomes a mount instead of being super inventory holder like it should be back in old FFs.

[Warlyx]

Then wouldn't Behemoth be an Elder Primal too? Infact wouldn't any big fate boss be a Elder Primal then by this logic such as Cancer the crab?

big fate boss doesnt mean elder primal .....Odin is a fate just because SE wanted odin to roam around on the forest other than that ....

[ReplicaX]

I'm mad about something, and you should hear about it.

You're a SMN, you are always mad and never satisfied.

I've been hearing it for over 11 years with SE MMOs.

[Synapse]

FFXIV... where all good FF characters and bestiary come to die...a sad shameful death...by noobs.....

[NoloeTazier]

As far as I know, the only spoken elder primal mentioned by any npc in the game is Bahamut, who is the father of all primals.

While I do agree that Odin should be a primal, I think it's just pure fandom that tricks us into thinking he is, when the game doesn't consider him to be one.

But like many have said, Odin is a special case and his lore hasn't fully been released, so it's all only speculations. He could be a Primal, or he couldn't be, we may never know.

The FATE itself calls Odin an Elder Primal. Steel Reign: Atop his mighty steed, clad in armor darker than the void, the elder primal Odin has returned to Eorzea to exact his brutal judgment upon the realm

[ReplicaX]

As far as I know, the only spoken elder primal mentioned by any npc in the game is Bahamut, who is the father of all primals.

Read the FATE description for Steel Reign....

Atop his mighty steed, clad in armor darker than the void, the elder primal Odin has returned to Eorzea to exact his brutal judgment upon the realm.

[Decrith]

If you look at it that way, you're definitely gonna be upset.

In my view, I think Diabolos (and Siren) is so cool that, they get their own dungeon, not some measly arena to fight them in. And they're like "yo dude, I'm so fly dem little summoners can't make an egi out of me"