Honest concern about the place of RNG in new coil progression

[darkstarpoet1]

this part of the issue with only being able to run a piece of content once a week. i've been running and clearing turns 1-5 for months now, but haven't gotten my full set for my main yet. i would rather run something 434653754 times a week and have something to do each day over running it once just to get the same bad luck on drops and only be able to run the content one day and then sign out the next 6.

[Wolf_Gang]

What concerns me is the distribution of loot.
I mean DRG can get their Chest piece AND legs in t1 , WTF?

[darkstarpoet1]

What concerns me is the distribution of loot.
I mean DRG can get their Chest piece AND legs in t1 , WTF?

how do you think it is for a blm when you get belt, legs, and earrings in t4? have legs, missed a lot on belt a few times, and have never seen the earrings drop and been clearing since november.

[Lord_Zlatan]

excellent ideas

Well, interestingly enough, I thought of almost the exact same thing when chatting with my FC, except with a twist.

I think that coil should be without lockouts. You can DO coil as much as you want, but you only get one of those tokens once a week. To provide motivation for doing coil outside your static, accessories (rings, necklaces, bracelets, earrings) are the only thing subjected to RNG.

T6 you get a token for gloves with a chance to drop tank/healer/melee/caster ring
T7 you get a token for feet with a chance to drop tank/healer/melee/caster necklace (once you already have that token, the next time you clear it the week later, you get a belt token)
T8 you get a token for Legs with a chance to drop tank/healer/melee/caster earrings (once you already have that token, you would get a token for body the next clear the next week)
T9 you get a token for head with a chance to drop tank/healer/melee/caster bracelet (weapon drops are RNG)

This way there is a little bit of everything: RNG, tokens, guarantees, longevity, lockouts, reasons to do it more than once a week.

just my .02

[Naunet]

Yup, I've brought this up before as well. I strongly disagree with SE's decision regarding Soldier gear's ilvl. There's a reason certain MMOs that have a combination of token systems and loot drops don't distinguish between them in ilvl - because the token gear is supposed to do two, very important things: 1) offer alternative stat paths to gearing and 2) provide relief from really bad RNG.

This is a very bad move on SE's part.

[Lord_Zlatan]

in addition, you can plan to spend soldiery tomes accordingly

[FizzyGiggles]

I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN BEEN DOING COIL JUST AS LONG NEVER SEEN THEM DAMN CASTING PAAAANNNTTSS

[Kuroyasha]

This^^ My group has been clearing coil 1-4 since mid-November, and the casting pants have not dropped once. Neither has the caster body. Meanwhile, everyone else in the static has a second job at full i90 (including my 2nd job), but my main is still wearing CT pants and inferior i90 because SE can't balance loot tables.

This is funny b/c Im in the same position lol. I have seen the pants drop once (lost to someone else in my current static who already had i90 pants ._.) and ive never seen cast chest..at all. every time i hear people on my server say they've seen it 3 or 4 times im like "....>_>". But i got my mnk to i90 this week while my BLM stuck with CT and af+1 body. But oh well i guess; What can you do at the end of the day? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Kenji1134]

Just gonna paste this from the tank forums...

I believe the motivation behind making Coil gear a potentially, since we dont know just yet, higher level than tome gear was to give people a reason to do coil, instead of just hacking away at tomes.
With that in mind, a good compromise would be to have an autolooted item drop from every boss, which is a secondary token of sorts, but ONLY available in coil.
Then, lets have these coil only items act as crafting components for Master Crafting Recipes, which are then used to upgrade tome gear.
So beat the Turn 6 boss, get say 1 token... As in everyone in the group automatically gets the token the moment the boss is killed. Turn 7, 2 tokens... Something to make beating harder content more enticing. This way you have a steady progression into I100 AND I110 gear... Of course a Coil drop just lets you skip the whole process.

Implementation wise, when you asked Gerolt to forge your relic, he told you to get the base for him... He "can" do it himself... but he's not gonna wipe your ass for ya too...
Same thing here. You give him tomes, he makes your base armor. If you want to make it better, then give him reinforcing components to add to it... but you have to get them yourself.
So go to Coil, kill bosses, get your autolooted item. Then take it to the appropriate master crafter, get the component made, and have Gerolt reinforce your gear, bringing it to I110.

... Maybe bring him some booze for extra motivation...

[Finuve]

we've never seen tank neck or MNK hands. I'm sure there are others but those two stand out. Especially the tank neck since a lot of people wanted it.