Plan to remove benefit for failing leves?

[Sigmakan]

If completed leves were allowed to be 'renewed' in the same fashion as the failed ones, I think this whole issue would go away.

Lets not increase rewards in the sense of gil or items, theres enough of that already.

[Kallera]

Told ya

It's official, the JP are stealing Cairdeas' ideas! They must have translators over there without our knowledge...

[Rentahamster]

It's official, the JP are stealing Cairdeas' ideas! They must have translators over there without our knowledge...

Hehe, the concept of awarding SP upon leve completion was brought up looooong time ago.

[Delmontyb]

While the current situation where players intentionally fail leves is not against the rules of the current game design, it obviously doesn't foster a healthy game environment. In our future plans for Guildleves, we don't plan on adding a penalty for failing, but instead plan to include a bonus for completion.

I'm hoping for healthy XP bonus' for completing the leves.

Also, any word on when new leves Rank 50 camps will open up?

[Radaghast]

In the long run unless it's a substantial sp bonus, I don't see why you wouldn't keep failing to keep optimal levs. Plus you're forgetting about links. No one's going to do a 1 link lev for crappy sp and a small bonus at the end.

You'd have to average out each lev to give the same sp at the end for this to be worth it.

[AlexiaKidd]

Like I said earlier unless further adjustment are made to go alongside this then this is a bad idea. Imagine if you will, you no longer get SP/EXP until the end of the Leve, ok so we all complete our abandoned leves and get our reward. Reset roles around and none of the good leves come up, then what. Your party also has all different leves as that is how they have turned up from the reset, great now we have a bunch of crappy Leve's to do and hardly any links. Without further adjustments to rewards and Leve selection this will be very bad.

[Galoot]

To OP: How about the fact that I purchased my game with my own funds and I will continue to play how I see fit. If you do not like the current system or the way certain people play I suggest you find another game. This is the dumbest thread ever, your basically crying because people aren't worrying about faction credits or class marks by finishing the leves. How about you play the game the way you want to play it and I will play it my way. I don't complain about you completing them do I? This is the dumbest argument ever put on these forums, it's basically you whining that you want more for completing them. If they fix it, I will complete them, but as it is now I want levels more than completing a quest...I'm sorry but I don't give a **** what you call it, cheating, exploiting, whatever...it's avaiable and I'm going to do it, because I paid my money.

[Xenor]

Why not just make leve mobs give 0 SP? Then give a set amount of SP at the end of the leve (consistent across all leves) based on how long it took to complete, how many stars and how many links. That way doing a leve on 5 stars with rank 70 mobs would reward you accordingly. They'd have to balance the time factor to account for extra stars of course.

[Kallera]

Like I said earlier unless further adjustment are made to go alongside this then this is a bad idea. Imagine if you will, you no longer get SP/EXP until the end of the Leve, ok so we all complete our abandoned leves and get our reward. Reset roles around and none of the good leves come up, then what. Your party also has all different leves as that is how they have turned up from the reset, great now we have a bunch of crappy Leve's to do and hardly any links. Without further adjustments to rewards and Leve selection this will be very bad.

Let me guess: you do the same leves over and over and complain that there's nothing to do?

[AlexiaKidd]

Let me guess: you do the same leves over and over and complain that there's nothing to do?

Yep, thats what I do. I spend the time I have in the most efficient manner to gain the most SP/EXP I can in that time. Yes I do complain there is nothing to do as well. I have no interest in crafting and gathering, I gave them a shot and they are not for me so all I have is my battle classes. Why would I choose to do crappy leves and gain SP/EXP slowly, when there are much more efficient methods out there.

I also remember what Leves were like at launch before Leve linking was introduced and Leve abandoning and they were hell. If you went in a big party you got minimal SP gains and they took forever to do as you would have to go through all of them at the camp just to do your 3, then you would go to the next camp again most likely go through all of them again then finally get to your last camp and go through another set just to complete your remaining 2. It was very, very time consuming, as it is now I can jump in my party get all 8 of my leve's done in a few hours.