SE - Default 3rd Retainer before Fees

[Starlord]

815 if you include the armory chest and the retainer bazaars.

Yep you are correct! 815 is actually very generous of SE to the point that if any more space is needed for players I think it's only fair to charge a small fee for retainers ( granted that these extra retainers are not link to the Venture system).

[ReplicaX]

Also, I wouldn't mind so much if the Armoire could actually hold the Seasonal Gear in a timely manner (Dream/Kabuto's/Valentione's... looking at you).

Thursday. But I seriously don't understand why they just can't do this at the start of the event or when the item is added to the game.

[LordSideKicks]

Pay for 8 chars in a server on 1 account and you get 16 retainers. See how much $2 you saved. Oh wait it is troublesome to have 8 chars? It is worst that you can't fork out extra $2 a month...

[Merciless]

Why does everyone make it like the people who craft and want to keep a supply of a lot of materials around are in the wrong? We're not saying we need this space for free and we'll quit if we don't get it. We want this space available and we want to be able to play the game and earn these types of rewards. I remember having to do some quests for extra inventory space, why not give us a quest? What about buying a retainer for 500,000 gil or maybe renting them for 50,000 gil a month.

The point is that we are already paying them every month with our subscription fee, putting non cosmetic items behind a paywall shouldn't be included in any way in a P2P game, end of story.

[Starlord]

The point is that we are already paying them every month with our subscription fee, putting non cosmetic items behind a paywall shouldn't be included in any way in a P2P game, end of story.

Option: Don't give them 2 bucks ( I am not because I really don't need the space).

[Gilthas]

For anyone who enjoys what this game has to offer in terms of collecting vanity items, crafting, gathering, or saving leveling gear for your subclasses.

We all know how painful it is to manage all that inventory.

And god knows how awful it will be come 2.2 when there are tonnes more collectibles/items.

Before you charge us, please make 3 Retainers the new baseline.

6 months from now you'll just be asking for 4 Retainers to be the baseline, and then a few months after that it'll be 5 Retainers, etc, etc.

we want that 3rd retainer we were told we would get before all this extra fee bs.

Are you 100% sure that SE told us that? Because the very first time they mentioned making more retainers available they already called it a service, and when I was jumping in joy about the prospects of a third retainer there was already a guy pointing out that it would be a paid service because SE already had plans for it in 1.0 and they were still calling it a service.

Ask for additional retainers to be free all you want, that would be great for everyone, but don't make up BS arguments.

[Gextiv]

6 months from now you'll just be asking for 4 Retainers to be the baseline, and then a few months after that it'll be 5 Retainers, etc, etc.

This "baseline" must reflect the maturity of the game, in order to appease players who have collected a great deal of items, vanity, etc., over time.

[Finuve]

Why does everyone make it like the people who craft and want to keep a supply of a lot of materials around are in the wrong? We're not saying we need this space for free and we'll quit if we don't get it. We want this space available and we want to be able to play the game and earn these types of rewards. I remember having to do some quests for extra inventory space, why not give us a quest? What about buying a retainer for 500,000 gil or maybe renting them for 50,000 gil a month.

The point is that we are already paying them every month with our subscription fee, putting non cosmetic items behind a paywall shouldn't be included in any way in a P2P game, end of story.

cosmetic items shouldnt be behind a paywall either

[Gilthas]

This "baseline" must reflect the maturity of the game, in order to appease players who have collected a great deal of items, vanity, etc., over time.

So basically, just like I said. 6 months from now you'd want 4 Retainers, then 6 months later 5 Retainers, etc, etc.

Both of my retainers are full and my Armoury Chest also has several slots full too (hell, I'd actually pay for a bigger Armoury Chest, that's what I actually need), but I know that at the very least half of the materials I have stashed I never use, while another third is very cheap to buy or very easy to gather. The only people that need Retainer space are people like me that hoard crap that they don't need.

We have a crap load of inventory space already. We don't need more*. What we actually need is Armoury Chest space, especially once they add more classes/jobs to the game. That's the "baseline" that needs to reflect the maturity of the game, not the "baseline" of hoarders who stash stuff they don't even need or use (and I'm guilty of this too).

EDIT:

* We don't need more at this point of the game's life at least. I played FFXI, that game was inventory hell where I had to keep gear sets on mules.

[Nadrojj]

Or you can just spend $2 dollars a month for another retainer. They aren't going to give you another for free just because people want it when they have a large majority of people (myself included) that have no problem tacking on $2-$4 extra bucks a month.