SE - Default 3rd Retainer before Fees

[Versiroth]

"Precedent: An earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances."

This issue = a bad precedent. The people defending it just don't get it. If they're willing to charge for bag space, then eventually, they'll charge for extra hair styles. And then special colored dyes. And then the ability to teleport to certain special locations. And then the ability to raise the weekly tome total past 450, etc. And if you're ok with this now, you have no right to complain later when they start nickle and diming you for everything you do.

[Daenerys_Sedai]

I get the feeling that you'll get a "free" retainer or two with the next expansion paid pack.

[starswept]

Yes, I approve this thread. Having one more (a third) free retainer would be so nice.

[Kinseykinz]

At some point folks, you need to look at yourself, AND your inventory and ask 'hmmm should I clear some stuff out before I star in the next episode of hoarders?' You have a LOT of storage space currently. Storage isn't your 'issue'. Rather you don't like the idea that some people will choose to pay to have more than you and/or you don't like that some people will choose to have more retainers out on any given time on Ventures than you. But in order for them to do so, they have to pay RL money AND they have to have the time, in game, to actively earn the venture vouchers/seals to buy venture vouchers. So even then, people are limited by what they are willing to do each day etc.

But really, if you find yourself with tight storage (and this is coming from a 50/all player w/ 1 full 'box' of her player inventory dedicated to fishing bait), maybe you should rethink how much stuff you need to 'save' and sell some of it/craft and sell some of it.

And stop screaming 'inventory!' when your real issue is you're just jealous others might have more than you/you're unwilling to spend extra money.

[Cigaran]

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Speaking for myself, the issue of hoarding in an MMO is something that has been re-enforced by dozens of other games. I've lost track of how many times a development team has goofed up and an item that is needed for crafting is removed from the loot tables. Other times it's been issues where a drop has been adjusted to be more rare. Or hell, look at what we have coming this week. Several items that can easily be acquired are going to have their delivery methods totally changed. There's just been too many instances where something that was as common as dirt suddenly becomes stupidly rare due to an error or a planned change.

[LordSideKicks]

Pay for 8 chars in a server on 1 account and you get 16 retainers. See how much $2 you saved. Oh wait it is troublesome to have 8 chars? It is worst that you can't fork out extra $2 a month...

[Ashgarth]

Pay for 8 chars in a server on 1 account and you get 16 retainers. See how much $2 you saved. Oh wait it is troublesome to have 8 chars? It is worst that you can't fork out extra $2 a month...

Really?

Please, explain to me how would you transfer items between your own characters besides having another player come over and hold all your trash to trasfer it ever single time you need an item.

[Gilthas]

Really?

Please, explain to me how would you transfer items between your own characters besides having another player come over and hold all your trash to trasfer it ever single time you need an item.

Company Chest.

[Ashgarth]

Company Chest.

Sure, let's all ask our FC to clear away a chest tab and give us exclusie access to it every time we have to take out a raptor hide from another character.

[Gilthas]

Sure, let's all ask our FC to clear away a chest tab and give us exclusie access to it every time we have to take out a raptor hide from another character.

Find a better FC then.

Three starting cities, 1 retainer per city as the baseline. That's how it should have been from the beginning.

This makes zero sense since you're trying to associate two different things just to come up with a reason why you should get a third retainer. I mean, your argument would completely fall apart if SE gave you a third retainer, but reduced the inventory and MB slots of each retainer by 1/3, while increasing the duration of ventures by 50% too.

Player two gets the money s/he needed, while player one is still playing and selling.

I won't disagree that having extra retainers gives a player an advantage, but you're completely overlooking that the game already gives an advantage to players who pay more. People paying a standard fee can have 8 characters on a single server (each with 2 retainers), over people paying the entry fee. Having extra characters is a way better tool to monopolizing markets than extra retainers so you're really reaching if you want to argue that extra retainers is what's breaking the balance.