Oldschool = (Do It Yourself + Timesink)

[reality_check]

I really enjoyed reading this post. I think it's a very down to earth perspective on the negativity people having been throwing FFXIV's way. I miss death penalties, log treks across dangerous zones, and grinding levels for hours on end, but the reality is that it's a thing of the past.

That type of game would not survive in today's market. We grew to like FFXI, now it's time to grow to like something new. And FFXIV has done this for me.

[Tupsi]

now it's time to grow to like something new. And FFXIV has done this for me.

FFXIV style MMOs have been released constantly the past 5 or so years - People are leaving WoW (the most popular one of them all and the originator of this more "streamlined" style) not because it's a bad game but this style of MMO gets boring pretty fast.

"Growing to like" this style of MMO people already have - Now people want devs to try something different.

That type of game would not survive in today's market.

This type of MMORPG barely survives in today's market because people are tired of them, why do you think people are saying ESO and Wildstar will fail? They aren't bad games at all..they're pretty much exactly like ARR, better in some areas.

I think the one thing people not seem to fully realize is a lot of gripes about "old school" MMOs still exist today just in different forms. So no, the sandbox fans didn't 'gloss over' faults as the OP say, it's more like they tend to remember and love the good, however they tend to get the brunt of hate if they don't constantly say how bad x MMO was.