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    Thorauku's Avatar
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by kayuwoody View Post
    I think his point was both Swiftcast and Stoneskin are useful tools. It's not a case of why use Stoneskin, it's why not?
    Why not you ask, because there are certain fights in which you just can't / won't be able to cast it. I've already said, you just simply can't cast Adloqium and Stoneskin to catch a spike damaging skill. (i.e Death Sentence, Rotoswipe, Mountain Buster), in which case you need to make a choice, Adloqium or Stoneskin? I guess we all know which skill will be used in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by kayuwoody View Post
    Nope, I said he's already shielded. There will be times when your tank's full and/or shielded, and you will be unable to contribute simply because you don't have stoneskin.
    I'm sorry? I can't recall any endgame content where Adloqium lasted for more than 3s. In which case you can just simply recast it instead of using a gimped Stoneskin. And hey, Adloqium heals. It's only probably useful during Transition phase, but then again, you're better off using Succor, as the transition phase usually lasts for like 3-5s.

    Plus, what's the WHM doing during Transition phase?

    Quote Originally Posted by kayuwoody View Post
    Let's put it this way: compare you to another sch. Everything's the same, gear, skill, experience, except he has stoneskin and you don't. He's got more tools, and will have the advantage. Same argument I said to Gilcris below: you can literally just cast only psyhick adlo and lustrate for any content currently in the game and still clear it. You'd be making life harder for the other healer but it's still doable. The point really is: you have the tools, why not use them? If the answer is you can't be bothered to level cnj then the answer is you're just lazy. It's not a bad thing, this is still just a game we play for fun. If you don't want to get it, don't. But the fact remains, you've not got all your tools yet. By simple comparison, you're not as good as the sch who does.
    Except the scholar can't simply cast Stoneskin to mitigate spike damaging skills when he needs it. And that's the real point of using it anyway. So what's the point? I'm talking more about endgame stuffs here as the low-tier dungeons is just a faceroll anyway.

    PS:
    I know my answer was too biased, but I just can't simply understand the point of using it when you can simply pre-made (WHM + SCH, which is actually better most of the time) almost every endgame content the game has to offer.

    While I admit that it has its uses, it just simply can't hold its ground to be called "necesarry" (IMO), hence this thread existed.
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    Last edited by Thorauku; 03-21-2014 at 08:33 PM.