2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

[Amberion]

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I have zero sympathy with those that chose a silly name and regret it later.

Also, there is a reason F2P games sell a lot of those char changing things. People generally feel better with permanent choices.

Then you also come to another thing. You know those really bad or rude players on your server? Well, soon you don't know who they are.

[Tandy]

If its 5 bucks for 2 retainers and its capped at you having maybe 10 tops (including the "free" 2) I would be ok with it. 20 bucks or so for more space is fine, considering how much space we currently have, I can see charging a premium for more since it does increase storage space for our characters server side, and even though its not expensive, its still not free.

Fantasia potions? Again I am ok with a few bucks for one of these. Your re-writing your character on the server in a sense (even though its dead easy and simple, but still) since race is probably tied into a LOT of things server side.

Charging 20 bucks for "Leet Dodo of Flaming Feathers" mount? So not ok with that. Never, EVER want to see that. I hope SE understands the difference and doesnt go into charging for "vanity gear and mounts".

Charging 20 bucks for 20 potions to refill your rest or give you bonus XP? Nope, not something I want in my games ever. Keep it far away from a "Pay to Play" game.

Services are ok, storage is ok. Moving beyond that is not.

[Felis]

That's outdated info from, like you said, 2011. The correct one is the following: http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...5382&kid=64539

It doesn't mention anything about retainers there.

Yes, because this is also outdated and not on the stand of 2.2
It is not even complete, because the legacy fee are missing

the reason it is not mentioned could be because it is not ingame yet or because it is an extra and not part of the monthly fee. It also don't list server transfer cost.

[Yshnal]

Yes, because this is also outdated and not on the stand of 2.2
It is not even complete, because the legacy fee are missing

Subscription fees for legacy appear under your account options and are applied automatically if you did attain legacy status, so no need to post them on a FAQ that will most likely be used by new or potentially new players that could be confused by it.

And no, it's not outdated. It might become outdated (and then edited on the FAQ) after the 27th, though, if they definitely change the billing options to include the retainer fee (if it's even a monthly fee).

[Gilthas]

I'm against that. An RPG should have permanent choices, and those two are pretty much the only once that are semi-permanent at the moment.

I don't like name changes either, but they've already announced that they'll be allowing it.

[Seif]

I hope they don't go the WoW route and put the coolest mounts and pets in the store, one of the reasons why I don't play that game anymore. Blizzard tested the waters with some sparkle pony mount celestial steed I think it was and they made like 20 million dollars in the first day of people buying this mount for $25 a pop so now they started to release a bunch of mounts.

If your paying a sub fee you should be able to get all the games mounts and pets doing stuff in game not by buying them on a store.

This 100% it might seem small now but this is absolutely what the game will turn into if the playerbase allows their sub money to be used to create products that they will have to pay for twice. It's literally stealing money.

[FoxiLady]

I totally agree with name changes because sometimes .... happens and people need them. Also when you have spent half an hour at the creation screen trying to get a half decent name it is easy to accept something second rate then later find something you like much better. I also have no problem paying for EXTRA storage or vanity items. SE is a business and to keep running they need money, yep subs are great but we all know they go up and down and if people are happy to pay for micro transactions then awesome. Just because you dont like them doesnt mean that everyone has to go without.

[Ravno]

They can sell vanity gear, mount or xp potion, i don't really care as long as it don't impact the gameplay equity beetween players at level 50.
For retainers, you can already use a second sub and with standard account you can get 12 more retainers this way.
So i don't really know if it's Pay2Win. It can already be done since day one.

[Everdark]

as per live letter you get 2. for a monthly payment.

[Gilgamesh-Merodach]

I'm not being a white knight here. I am just speaking my mind and my thoughts on what you posted.

1) Microtransactions in general, in a Pay 2 Play game

I do admit having an ingame option to obtain it would be a wise PR move. No arguments here. However, it's been an FF MMO practise to have these. FF XI had them too. Thankfully however, non was ever close to being a game breaking addition.

2) The Pay 2 Win Aspect

Pretty sure there's a limit to how many retainers you can have. So it's not like you can buy 100 retainers and make A x 100 (materials) whilst u sleep. Frankly speaking if any, I'd purchase them for more storage because god knows 2 retainers + 100 slots isn't enough. I can gain just as much mats in less time as per comparison too. At best it's a novelty of convenience. I don't see why this would impact the game at all.