SE just copy FFXI in FFXIV

[Verecund]

They should probably just get rid of retainers and implement bank NPCs and some kind of AH. Think what an unecessary pain having all those retainers standing around is on the server load :P

[Reika]

not gonna put image link... i'll link to the site that has the image http://freeride7.blog82.fc2.com/blog-entry-1297.html

I wouldn't do that to the CE version, you know this game if it does fail (AND I HOPE NOT) it can become the first FF that got the worst rating on every region market. And can also turn around and become the first MMO to go into sh** hole and come back and become one of the top 3 games in MMO history...

It's all up to the YoshiP and his dev's team work + all our feed backs supporting them (and hopefully they listen to all the good ideas we all have in here...)

Ah thank you for the link. What a horrible thing to do to a cd!.

I think FFXIV will improve. It wasn't really all that bad to me really, just needs some improvements and additions. Too bad the 'improvements' involve scrapping just about every aspect of the current systems, thanks to us... They could have done it without hitting the revert button, but that is what I see happening now. So don't worry OP, things will start to feel like FFXI over time.

[Rydin]

They should probably just get rid of retainers and implement bank NPCs and some kind of AH. Think what an unecessary pain having all those retainers standing around is on the server load :P

Why does it have to be called an AH... even if they do away with the market wards.... they could go to menu/counter based purchasing....
I really don't want to bid on items

[Suirieko]

Considering that I hated what little I played of FFXI, I really don't want FFXIV to take too much from it.

You really don't even know what made FFXI actually good and successful as opposed to how poorly FFXIV started. Based on what you said, I can probably guess that you more than likely have never leveled a job past 20 to maybe 25, Never even unlock subjobs. You've barely even begun to scratch the very tip of the iceberg of what made FFXI actually enjoyable and fun. How am I doing so far?

Personally, I rather have FFXIV feel like FFXIV and not like "FFXI-2" as people have put it, however, this isn't an excuse to not take some features of what made FFXI actually good and enjoyable. Of course there are some features in FFXI that I hope to never see in FFXIV.

Bottomline is: Outside of the similarities between the races between the two games, SquareEnix made FFXIV as different as possible from FFXI, that many of the features in FFXIV made this blatantly obvious that it's insane. You can have a lot of the features FFXI, and it will still be a different game.

One of the biggest thing that will truly set FFXIV apart from FFXI, even with all the features is the fact that FFXIV will never have the severe technology limitations that FFXI suffered.

[Elexia]

How convenient; with such a trollish response, I feel exactly the same way.

Honestly..given how you said "what little I played of FFXI" is like me saying what little of Zelda OoT I played I disliked the entire game.

Here's the basics that FFXI did that XIV should have had at launch if they chose to build off of it:

Linkshell system - Commands including /lsmes. Pearl shading, so while there will be repeats, it at least at customizable coloring.
Search system - You can have a search comment with color coding based on categories.
/sea all (level range/job/names etc) type of searching
Party Flag.
Group Grinding - love it or hate it, even with solo natured games there has to be a reason to group and the grouping reason in XIV is very minimal.
Content Concepts - Guildleves are basically lesser forms of Field of Valor/Grounds of Valor. They're similar but they could have complimented it by adding in a Campaign or Assault type system which could be tied to fame which could unlock more content.
Working Job system - Again it's up to preference, but the job system worked very well. The only "imbalance" was the fact everyone would want to flock to what puts out the highest damage, which is true for every MMO in existence.
Interface - Client side goodness.
World/Lore/Atmosphere - XIV has a fair bit of it but you can't deny...well you said you barely played it so you probably can deny that it has great atmosphere, lore and world.

I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUHC-uoDrLE

Who likes beautiful battle fields and tough boss fights?

[Seikninkuru]

That would also be acceptable, i just really miss FFXI lol D:

You can still play it; why don't you head on over there.

[RinL]

Players will never be satisfied because they all have played FFXI. We just need a copy of FFXI with better graphic. Nothing to add.

On one side I like this idea, and on another I don't.

I understandthe desire to simply take everything good from eleven and place it in this game to improve it. If you think about it though, that's pretty much a band-aid fix. The only reason it is suggested is because players are so disappointed with this newest iteration in the Final Fantasy series.

I personally would like for the game to be shut down for a year or two. I do not mean to offend The players still enjoying it (and many are), but the best way to address this failed launch is to try again. Apologize, throw as much PR on the situation as you can, but shut things down.

Once the game is offline your teams can begin bringing this game up to where it needs to be. Have everyone on the current Dev team jump on eleven and form your own LS, then play together to max level. Every night have everyone write at least one unique thing they enjoyed. Use those experiences as a sort of storyboard to build this newest Final Fantasy with.

By doing this SE will be able to build something that is fun for the majority of it's players. Hundreds of quests that tie into the lore of his universe, reputation with your chosen nation, classes that actually feel unique, more fearsome NM's, a better economy. Pretty much a better game in every way, and all released at once as it should have been so players have something to do all the time.

This is what I think anyhow. This games kind of like an open wound right now, and keeping it open to the world while trying to fix things is just causing it to fester. Poor example, possibly, but you get what I mean.

[Visch]

Players will never be satisfied because they all have played FFXI. We just need a copy of FFXI with better graphic. Nothing to add.

This is the greatest post ever. I love you.

[Dreamer]

You really don't even know what made FFXI actually good and successful as opposed to how poorly FFXIV started. Based on what you said, I can probably guess that you more than likely have never leveled a job past 20 to maybe 25, Never even unlock subjobs. You've barely even begun to scratch the very tip of the iceberg of what made FFXI actually enjoyable and fun. How am I doing so far?

Personally, I rather have FFXIV feel like FFXIV and not like "FFXI-2" as people have put it, however, this isn't an excuse to not take some features of what made FFXI actually good and enjoyable. Of course there are some features in FFXI that I hope to never see in FFXIV.

Bottomline is: Outside of the similarities between the races between the two games, SquareEnix made FFXIV as different as possible from FFXI, that many of the features in FFXIV made this blatantly obvious that it's insane. You can have a lot of the features FFXI, and it will still be a different game.

One of the biggest thing that will truly set FFXIV apart from FFXI, even with all the features is the fact that FFXIV will never have the severe technology limitations that FFXI suffered.

No. I don't play a game 'to get to the good parts.' If a game isn't engaging and entertaining from the start, it fails as a game, period. If I've reached level 20 and haven't been enjoying it, I'm not going to force myself to continue playing it just because it may start getting better. I'm playing FFXIV right now because for all of its flaws, I find it to be enjoyable enough that I want to continue playing.

The same was true for WoW, Aion, LotRO, and City of Heroes. In all of those games I found the game fun from the start, not just after I'd invested a certain amount of time into it. WoW had its enchanting world and well-designed everything. Aion had its flight mechanics and cuteness. LotRO had its Tolkienesque world and storytelling. City of Heroes had a combat system more fun than any MMORPG I've played.

FFXIV a lot of interesting ideas, potential, a main storyline that I've enjoyed so far, and a battle-system that I really liked. Unfortunately, they seem set on removing most of the things that I do enjoy about the game.

[Seif]

Why does it have to be called an AH... even if they do away with the market wards.... they could go to menu/counter based purchasing....
I really don't want to bid on items

Honestly how dumb can a comment be?

Because changing the name to AH would be a massive card to market XIV to those who have left the game! What do YOU care if they do?
Personally it's all the same to me as long as I don't need to enter the MW system ever again but I DO care about the almost non existent player-base this game has for a free to play game.