SE just copy FFXI in FFXIV

[Suirieko]

Considering that I hated what little I played of FFXI, I really don't want FFXIV to take too much from it.

You really don't even know what made FFXI actually good and successful as opposed to how poorly FFXIV started. Based on what you said, I can probably guess that you more than likely have never leveled a job past 20 to maybe 25, Never even unlock subjobs. You've barely even begun to scratch the very tip of the iceberg of what made FFXI actually enjoyable and fun. How am I doing so far?

Personally, I rather have FFXIV feel like FFXIV and not like "FFXI-2" as people have put it, however, this isn't an excuse to not take some features of what made FFXI actually good and enjoyable. Of course there are some features in FFXI that I hope to never see in FFXIV.

Bottomline is: Outside of the similarities between the races between the two games, SquareEnix made FFXIV as different as possible from FFXI, that many of the features in FFXIV made this blatantly obvious that it's insane. You can have a lot of the features FFXI, and it will still be a different game.

One of the biggest thing that will truly set FFXIV apart from FFXI, even with all the features is the fact that FFXIV will never have the severe technology limitations that FFXI suffered.

[Dreamer]

You really don't even know what made FFXI actually good and successful as opposed to how poorly FFXIV started. Based on what you said, I can probably guess that you more than likely have never leveled a job past 20 to maybe 25, Never even unlock subjobs. You've barely even begun to scratch the very tip of the iceberg of what made FFXI actually enjoyable and fun. How am I doing so far?

Personally, I rather have FFXIV feel like FFXIV and not like "FFXI-2" as people have put it, however, this isn't an excuse to not take some features of what made FFXI actually good and enjoyable. Of course there are some features in FFXI that I hope to never see in FFXIV.

Bottomline is: Outside of the similarities between the races between the two games, SquareEnix made FFXIV as different as possible from FFXI, that many of the features in FFXIV made this blatantly obvious that it's insane. You can have a lot of the features FFXI, and it will still be a different game.

One of the biggest thing that will truly set FFXIV apart from FFXI, even with all the features is the fact that FFXIV will never have the severe technology limitations that FFXI suffered.

No. I don't play a game 'to get to the good parts.' If a game isn't engaging and entertaining from the start, it fails as a game, period. If I've reached level 20 and haven't been enjoying it, I'm not going to force myself to continue playing it just because it may start getting better. I'm playing FFXIV right now because for all of its flaws, I find it to be enjoyable enough that I want to continue playing.

The same was true for WoW, Aion, LotRO, and City of Heroes. In all of those games I found the game fun from the start, not just after I'd invested a certain amount of time into it. WoW had its enchanting world and well-designed everything. Aion had its flight mechanics and cuteness. LotRO had its Tolkienesque world and storytelling. City of Heroes had a combat system more fun than any MMORPG I've played.

FFXIV a lot of interesting ideas, potential, a main storyline that I've enjoyed so far, and a battle-system that I really liked. Unfortunately, they seem set on removing most of the things that I do enjoy about the game.

[Elexia]

FFXIV a lot of interesting ideas, potential, a main storyline that I've enjoyed so far, and a battle-system that I really liked. Unfortunately, they seem set on removing most of the things that I do enjoy about the game.

FFXIV had only 1 interesting idea...Cross Classing skills, and even that was poorly done. They're removing things in favor of something to attract many more. Stamina system? Cool, but Haste and Slow barely worked with it especially given the fact everything is serverside, so a server delay can render Haste and Slow useless.

You said it best:

No. I don't play a game 'to get to the good parts.' If a game isn't engaging and entertaining from the start, it fails as a game, period.

FFXIV falls into this category for the grand majority (almost 670k people bought this game and not even a quarter are left playing it while free.)

Not to mention:

If I've reached level 20 and haven't been enjoying it, I'm not going to force myself to continue playing it just because it may start getting better.

Guess what? Many people just load up the game and quit because they have to force themselves to play through a lot of glaring flaws. It "may get better" at higher levels, but guess what? If it's like stripping fingernails just to level you won't enjoy it, and more than 580k people didn't.

I find it to be enjoyable enough that I want to continue playing.

Many find FFXI enjoyable "through it's flaws" or it wouldn't have survived 9 years, FFXIV though? Is dangerously close to not surviving, nor was it going anywhere a month after release, especially with harsh reviews.