Would you be upset if the game went offline?

[viion]

Gary Ganon is an idiot. He didn't even bother to mention that that video was a work heavily under construction -- something that was clearly pointed out in the letter. The only good thing about his old XIV Podcast was the hawtness that is Kenzie. Don't lose any sleep over a jackass talking about that vid as if it were the final version.

it doesnt matter if its a dev video or not, ur average customer wont care and just see it as update video as it competes with the other games.

[Cendres]

People who want the game shut down just need to quit and move on to another mmo if you all hate it that much and see no possible future. Get off the sinking ship and play Rift or WoW... which from reading 7/10 pages seems to be almost everyone except like 4 people in thread.
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It has nothing to do with hate of the game and a lot more to do with sense. It may not be what you agree with that does not mean people are suggesting this because they'd rather this game dies, quite the opposite. I'd wager people who've truly given up on the game are already gone.

[Miquinee]

if they shut this down, who will help them test the game in this beta phase? LOL

[Rowyne]

This thread proves the stupidity of the forums...

Why do people have to resort to insults whey they don't agree with something?

IF they keep the game up or take the game down.

The core servers, the core mechanics, content, and what not will not be fixed anyfaster at all. What ever they develop is not even related to the live servers So taking it down will not help "Fix" the game.

Speed isn't the only issue here. It's about perception.

it doesnt matter if its a dev video or not, ur average customer wont care and just see it as update video as it competes with the other games.

Exactly. :/

[Seif]

I'm really looking forward to the day this game has stuff to do in it but that just aint happening at this pace. I would welcome some offline time so I could stop checking daily when the promised then failed promised then canceled and re-promised content actually arrives. It's not that XIV is currently bad that's so annoying but the way SE and especially N. Yoshida has been stringing us along with "wait until you see what we do next!"-messages and them following them with disappointing minor battle tweaks.

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

Anything you release to the public is subject to public scrutiny and criticism.

... except scrutiny and criticism are in violation of forum guidelines....

But back on-topic.

This issue is a house divided, I can't stand it.

There are people who still want to play the game. There are even some who think it's a great game and has really made a lot of progress. Okay fine.

There are people who think it's a terrible game, that change is coming too slow, and that when the change finally does get here it won't be enough to make the game even halfway decent. Perfectly valid viewpoints.

Neither side agrees with each other. Ain't nothing going to help that.

Side A wants the game to keep going. They'd probably even pay for it.

Side B is very disappointed and what they want varies.

Here's my proposal:

Give every purchaser of FFXIV a choice:

1. Start paying a subscription fee as of 1.20. Servers will be merged as necessary, PS3 release might never come. Work on FFXIV slows as it is handed over to a skeleton team.
2. Cancel your FFXIV account and get a voucher for S-E's next MMO, for price of purchase and 6 months comped gameplay. The ~200 people working on FFXIV now get put to work on this new game, which is called just Final Fantasy Online, to come out in 24 months. S-E decides in the next 3 months whether Crystal Tools can be salvaged or whether to license a functional engine like Frostbite.
3. Cancel your FFXIV account and get your money back for both the initial purchase and any Crysta you bought.

Everyone gets to choose.

There are a lot of people who bought FFXIV and don't play it. They're the majority, not the people on the forums and not the people playing. Those people, the ones who aren't playing, are pissed off and resentful-- moreso even than those on the forums who at least tolerate S-E enough to post here. How many people bought FFXIV on release? 300k? How many still play? 100k tops? So that's 200k people pissed at S-E, 200k subscribers who will never come back to S-E. S-E should heal the breach and offer them a refund or a voucher.

Won't happen.

But that's what they should do.

[zoekwon]

time is running out for ff14. ... games like diablo 3, guild war, tera is coming out end of 2011 and i dont see how it can compete with those game. i see server merge in 2012 after ps3 release.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

MMO trickle updates, and there isn't anything new here infact we get updates faster then most mmo. They are just fixing more then adding. So I do not think it matters if the shut down the servers or not. Would I be upset? Yes because i bought a game to play, and I'm having fun.

Also your suggestion about the devs playing ffxi, is a bad one. The game is a lot like ffxi atm. And I do not want a copy game, I want a new one. I think those who do not like the game at all should just quit, and quit posting on the forums. They will never like this game, and most are stuck in the past of mmo. They want tedious game play for the sake of an artifical challenge. I'm personally now just waiting for the ps3 version and playing WoW in the mean time. Not because of the game, but the community. No one talks and its dragging the game down in my opinion. Its at the point where i rather see trade trolling then deal with silence.

Mostly because how "fun" a game is shouldn't determin how talkative the community is.

[Richard]

time is running out for ff14. ... games like diablo 3, guild war, tera is coming out end of 2011 and i dont see how it can compete with those game. i see server merge in 2012 after ps3 release.

SE has already conceded the fact that XIV will not beat out anything Blizzard Produces. They probably had high hopes to contend with RIFT, TERA and SWTOR, all of which will pull in more initial subs. Once PS3 is released 80% of SE's market is back in the game and GW2 wont even be an issue. ArenaNet is selling box sales, not subs. F2P or did you forget.

In the long run XIV will thrive with a moderate sub base. September 2010 to PS3 release means nothing at this point.

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

MMO trickle updates, and there isn't anything new here infact we get updates faster then most mmo.

Can you substantiate that claim? Just today I saw a comparison of XIV to Rift that showed quite the opposite of what you're claiming, but if you can prove otherwise I'd feel much better about XIV's prospects.

They are just fixing more then adding. So I do not think it matters if the shut down the servers or not. Would I be upset? Yes because i bought a game to play, and I'm having fun.

Also your suggestion about the devs playing ffxi, is a bad one. The game is a lot like ffxi atm. And I do not want a copy game, I want a new one. I think those who do not like the game at all should just quit, and quit posting on the forums. They will never like this game, and most are stuck in the past of mmo. They want tedious game play for the sake of an artifical challenge. I'm personally now just waiting for the ps3 version and playing WoW in the mean time. Not because of the game, but the community. No one talks and its dragging the game down in my opinion. Its at the point where i rather see trade trolling then deal with silence.

Mostly because how "fun" a game is shouldn't determin how talkative the community is.

I, uh... okay. You first claim, in the purple, that you're having fun with XIV but then say you don't actually play XIV.

Also, in the bold is stuff I'm not even going to comment on but I didn't want you to think I wasn't paying attention.

Are you serious about anything you said or is this post 100% troll?