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  1. #91
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    Luna Sushima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    What you're not realizing is, this is just the beginning of how a game evolves into p2w.
    I think that some people (including this post) are over reacting on what most likely be a simple "storage" feature. XI technically had it and it didn't "Evolve" into P2W, this game won't either. Why would they have to? They have 500k+ Subs still.

    http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/14...players-japan/

    “If we go by the amount of people who log in each day, it’s about 500,000 people worldwide. There are people who also log in at least once every two days, so if we were to include those, the the figure would be much higher.”
    They have no reason to make this game like a F2P P2W game.

    Pay 2 Win is something that directly affects your character that gives you an unfair advantage with real money. Even if it's the worst case scenario and the Retainers bring you 7 Alagoat skins per 2 hours... and you buy 3 retainers does that really effect your character at all? No it doesn't but it could effect the economy.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 03-20-2014 at 03:00 AM.

  2. #92
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Its not like they're charging cash for your Zenith weapon. Nothing like a mmo crowd to overreact to everything. I'm jazzed to get third retainer. I keep my stuff real organized, one holds my equipment and the other holds my gathered mats and crafted items. A third one would let me split the crafted items and gathered mats.
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  3. #93
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I think that some people (including this post) are over reacting on what most likely be a simple "storage" feature. XI technically had it and it didn't "Evolve" into P2W, this game won't either. Why would they have to? They have 500k+ Subs still.

    http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/14...players-japan/



    They have no reason to make this game like a F2P P2W game.
    Agree, so much over reacting. I see the same thing going on for ESO, so much overreacting over such minute things.
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  4. #94
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Yeah. This isn't quite P2W. But it starts a slippery slope I hope they avoid.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    Agree, so much over reacting. I see the same thing going on for ESO, so much overreacting over such minute things.
    WELL for the case of eso, they re LOCKING a playable race for collector edition so outrage is kind of justified.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    WELL for the case of eso, they re LOCKING a playable race for collector edition so outrage is kind of justified.
    They just announced they will also be putting a horse in the cash shop for launch.Im still going to get the game but i dont see it taking long before they have a full cash shop in that game plus a sub.
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  7. #97
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    WELL for the case of eso, they re LOCKING a playable race for collector edition so outrage is kind of justified.
    I guess it could be, I just don't get so much outrage over a video game but to each their own I guess.
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  8. #98
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    "More retainers via micro transactions" aka Additional/Optional retainers beyond your standard two, require a fee.
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  9. #99
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    Ria Lhuil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    I do not like microtransaction as well but think of it this way. If you are given a choice of NEVER able to changing your character appearance and never have more retainer slot or have a "choice" of paying to made them available, i am sure majority of the population will ops for the later. NOW if SE start selling power then we got problems to be concern about.
    I'd actually prefer the option that lets me unlock these features in-game via a quest-line, drop, craft, or currency gate. For a sub based game, the options for stuff like this should never be, "Real cash or nothing."
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  10. #100
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    So it begins... At the end of the day Square Enix is a company, just like any other. Naturally they'd try to get more money out of this by adding microtransactions as well. They're testing the water with something like extra Retainers, but if that's successful you can bet they'll do more. Can see this working real well with the new Retainer Ventures too. Want to get ahead in that? Buy a few extra Retainers, no wonder these are coming in the same patch.

    Terrible move, pay to play should not have microtransactions. Period. Those bonuses for subscribing were nice, this is absolutely terrible. At best they've gotten this whole thing backwards. You pay to move server. You should pay to change your appearance. You should pay to get 50 free teleports. What should you get for continuing to subscribe? Extra Retainers. Anyone who has been playing for a while likely needs the extra space. Someone who just has $ to burn? They're just going to abuse the system and cause harm to the games economy, but what does Square Enix care? They get a heap of money out of such a short sighted move.

    Guess Retainer Ventures really will be crashing the games economy though. Anyone with their moms credit card can now get a bulk amount of Retainers and go from 7 Apkallu Eggs per hour to 70.
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    Last edited by Sotek; 03-20-2014 at 03:20 AM.

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