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    Razzle's Avatar
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    Razu Erisu
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    a lot less people will do it willy-nilly if they had to pay real money for it, if it's a dropped item people might do it just because they have one.
    Um, I don't get it lol
    It's better to have the item instantly when paying for it, than it is to work and play the game towards it...?

    As a player I'd like to think that the more things I can do in-game - The better. I'd like every single thing to be obtainable in game, even if it's super rare or take days to reach to - more goals for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    Um, I don't get it lol
    It's better to have the item instantly when paying for it, than it is to work and play the game towards it...?

    As a player I'd like to think that the more things I can do in-game - The better. I'd like every single thing to be obtainable in game, even if it's super rare or take days to reach to - more goals for me.
    it's not a goal they want people to have. it's an option they have to offer because some people truly regret their design choices but by design (of wanting people to be attached to a single character), they don't want that as an in game goal for people to race change every month or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    it's not a goal they want people to have. it's an option they have to offer because some people truly regret their design choices but by design (of wanting people to be attached to a single character), they don't want that as an in game goal for people to race change every month or so.
    FFXIV: A restriction reborn. The whole game is already locked out. I don't see why not put a lockout on that if that was a problem for them. I somehow lean to believe it's to get more money on top of a sub and not because "they don't want people to race change every month or so."

    In fact, having it on an online store with no lockout, would allow players to change every month or so, while having a lockout in game would not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    FFXIV: A restriction reborn. The whole game is already locked out. I don't see why not put a lockout on that if that was a problem for them. I somehow lean to believe it's to get more money on top of a sub and not because "they don't want people to race change every month or so."

    In fact, having it on an online store with no lockout, would allow players to change every month or so, while having a lockout in game would not.
    Dungeon Fantasy: A Restriction Reborn.
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    Lucius Eventide
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swagcity View Post
    Dungeon Fantasy: A Restriction Reborn.
    Coming soon! A service you can buy to remove lockouts and point caps!
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    Last edited by Licus; 03-20-2014 at 10:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Licus View Post
    Coming soon! A service you can buy to remove lockouts and point caps!
    Please look forward to it!
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    Give fantasia as a quest reward? As a seal exchange? As a rare drop? As a treasure hunt? Why pay on top of a monthly fee for that?
    Character alteration has always been a service charge in subscription MMOs, as well as other services such as world transfers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valendred View Post
    This whole thing wouldn't be an issue if paid retainers were simply ONLY for storage space.
    I think we simply don't have enough information yet. We're taking a very loosely translated Japanese article (not done by Reinheart even) and assuming the worst.

    In 1.0 they were going to charge an extra $1.00 per month for extra retainers before the development team shifted. People that came from FFXI were willing to pay that because we had to pay for extra characters in that game. This game, however, has a totally different playerbase now with many different backgrounds.

    I don't think they will ever degrade the PvE experience by implementing significant paywalls through the Mog Station, but depending on the functionality of paid extra retainers, this could really churn some waters. If it's simply for extra storage then I'm sure most people won't care. If these same retainers can do Ventures or are the only retainers that can do Ventures, it's going to miff a lot of people because game features in a subscription game should not be behind an additional paywall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Character alteration has always been a service charge in subscription MMOs, as well as other services such as world transfers.
    So since one company started a trend of screwing us, we should continue to just take it

    they could at least take me to dinner first
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    So since one company started a trend of screwing us, we should continue to just take it

    they could at least take me to dinner first
    The same can be said about anything where a precedent is set. SE is a business and if there's money that can be made while doing it without offending the majority of their playerbase they're damn sure going to do it.
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    Well said Oro
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