Thread: 2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

Originally Posted by Valendred

It has been confirmed in 2.2 that retainers will be able to go out on missions and gather materials and more. The person who spends their real life money on more retainers will have more access to materials and be able to obtain them much quicker than someone who does not. This is literally the definition of Pay 2 Win if these purchased retainers are able to perform these gathering ventures.

There is much more to be said about this topic but I feel as though I've presented the most important information. I know if this change goes live, I'll be talking with my wallet and cancelling my subscription immediately.

What do you all think?

I think it's a little early to start running around and saying that the sky is falling. Oh no... people can buy 100 retainers and crash the market of Apkallu eggs... so? People farm them to death and do that all by themselves. I'm guessing the materials that people actually need for i90 crafted stuff is going to be gathered from the new nodes that require high levels of gathering just to get something from. Your retainers are unlikely to be able to obtain this stuff for you, and that's the stuff that's likely going to be making the worth while profits. When they start selling i90 gear equipable at lvl 1, then we can start talking pay to win.

This is how it always goes.

Company offers something small you can buy.

Fans " OMG GAIS it's only so-so item it's not a big deal!"

Company offers more stuff you can buy.

Fans " I'm okay with it because it's not directly P2W"

Company goes into full milking mode.


In reality players just want to pay for something that helps them play, hence RMT is so popular.

I think that there will be paid extras just because of his model of a mainly casual game they are doing here. They will want people that have less time to play in game be able to get bonuses and stuff.
Personally I am more pissed about having to pay extra money for when I use my internet over their limit or my phone data goes over and I get charged more with no benefits. At least this money will go towards a game I enjoy playing and hopefully provide a better experience for me.

Seriously... if I recall the recent 2.2 preview on the retainer services the example provided was the retainer taking an hour to gather something like 7 apkallu eggs...dear freaking god they're going to topple the economy.

It's not like they're going to let you buy 50 retainers and rake in hundreds and hundreds of drops per hour, you might be lucky if they provide the option to purchase two more retainers.

I'm a bit concerned where this is going.
I can understand server transfers being an optional service outside the game but changing looks and now item storage... I've played enough f2p mmos to see the bad direction because those 2 items are the top sellers in a cash-shop!

If it really comes to the point where we can buy additional inventory space, I can see the game losing players and eventually go f2p, regardless of what Yoshida said or promised...

No need to be concerned - Gamers want this kind of system as they continue to buy unfinished games, pay for DLC and continue to make F2P and P2W games popular. Every game eventually will follow suit because it's an obvious source of revenue ANY company would want to tap into.

Originally Posted by Tupsi

No need to be concerned - Gamers want this kind of system as they continue to buy unfinished games, pay for DLC and continue to make F2P and P2W games popular. Every game eventually will follow suit because it's an obvious source of revenue ANY company would want to tap into.

This. /10chr