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    I doubt any company would turn down the chance to earn extra revenue. As much as I hate the latest trend with SE and pushing micro transactions onto all of their recent releases, I feel that if people weren't paying, they wouldn't do it. That being said, this seems like a situation where supply and demand win over sowing seeds of good will with your fanbase. As long as people keep paying for it, there will be more additional services like this tacked on to get your hard earned money.

    Don't want to deal with it? Want a change? Stop paying. It's that simple. You'll find that such strong will is not really easy to be found these days. At least not for fans of a video game with cat people in it, I guess. Really though it's no reason to unsub over simply because some dude with more money buys some extra retainers or Gil or Fantasia or world transfers or future services to be named later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
    Don't want to deal with it? Want a change? Stop paying. It's that simple.
    Nah if it was that simple RMT would of been stopped a long time ago. People get addicted to buying and companies keep making new crap they can buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post

    Don't want to deal with it? Want a change? Stop paying. It's that simple. You'll find that such strong will is not really easy to be found these days. At least not for fans of a video game with cat people in it, I guess. Really though it's no reason to unsub over simply because some dude with more money buys some extra retainers or Gil or Fantasia or world transfers or future services to be named later.
    That's exactly what I plan to do if this change sees the live release, as said in the OP.
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    They are gathering worthless items for crying out loud, it wouldnt even bother me if ppl went all their way to purchase multiple retainers and put them all on ventures, market will be overloaded anyway and prices will went to shit, its not even P2W, geez... Just because they are introducting microtransaction, it doesnt necessarilly will put someone in major disadvantage or put it this way, winning this game.

    NO. CAPS FOR EMPHASIS.

    UNLESS THEY LET MY RETAINER FARM TWINTANIA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCS View Post
    They are gathering worthless items for crying out loud
    Wonder how many people complained about Apkallu eggs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCS View Post
    They are gathering worthless items for crying out loud, it wouldnt even bother me if ppl went all their way to purchase multiple retainers and put them all on ventures, market will be overloaded anyway and prices will went to shit, its not even P2W, geez... Just because they are introducting microtransaction, it doesnt necessarilly will put someone in major disadvantage or put it this way, winning this game.

    NO. CAPS FOR EMPHASIS.

    UNLESS THEY LET MY RETAINER FARM TWINTANIA.
    all microtransactions in a subscription game are bad. The fact that modern gamers just get on their knees and suck them down is killing modern game value

    And you dont get to define P2W, P2W is different for everyone. The fact that everyones example is always "Its not going to help you clear coil so its not P2W" is flat wrong. Someones definition of winning may be collecting large amounts of gil, retainers clearly help with that.

    I quit tera because I was so damn annoyed that all of the event items were temporary and you had to pay for permanence. Collecting event items is a large chunk of enjoying a game to me, so locking the rewards behind a paywall is P2W to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post

    And you dont get to define P2W, P2W is different for everyone. The fact that everyones example is always "Its not going to help you clear coil so its not P2W" is flat wrong. Someones definition of winning may be collecting large amounts of gil, retainers clearly help with that.
    me

    Someone finally managed to articulate my thoughts on P2W.

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valendred View Post
    Someone finally managed to articulate my thoughts on P2W.

    Thank you.
    The question, then, is what are you going to DO with all that gil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    The question, then, is what are you going to DO with all that gil?
    The real question is... What you gon' do with all that junk? All that junk inside your trunk?
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valendred View Post
    Someone finally managed to articulate my thoughts on P2W.

    Thank you.
    There were many players that said Diablo 3 wasn't Pay to Win with the RMT AH. They said that "You can't p2w in PVE content!"
    All of them were crazy though. Items that weren't that good was selling for a max of 250 irl dollars.
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    Last edited by Doo; 03-20-2014 at 01:14 AM.

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