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    Player
    C-croft's Avatar
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    Cloudcroft Ieyasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    Well, i guess you always turn down discounts from stores that offers it as part of their loyalty or repeat customer program.

    Whats funny is the number of hypocrites here.
    There's a difference. When you get free discounts and what not, do you batch about it? Do you say it's not enough and get pissy?
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    You should have bought an authenticator.....



    Your tears feed me....

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    Player ReiszRie's Avatar
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    Reisz Rie
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    There's a difference. When you get free discounts and what not, do you batch about it? Do you say it's not enough and get pissy?
    When you've been getting a 20% discount for the past year and now you're only getting a $1 off, do you biatch about it then?

    Stop twisting it and making the 360 day veteran rewards seem like its the first veteran reward implemented, the fact that past veteran rewards are following a trend of unique minions, mounts and costumes, heck you get a freaking behemoth mount for 270 days, it simply makes it natural for players to expect an equal or greater degree of reward value.

    It isn't about entitlement, its merely a expectation from what the devs have set.
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    Last edited by ReiszRie; 03-19-2014 at 06:11 PM.

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    Denathor Exel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfreid View Post
    So, you are petitioning for something you get for "Free" because the Devs want to give players
    stuff to show they are happy for you subscribing? You do realize they can easily just not care and give us nothing.
    Last I checked you get nothing for being subscribed in WoW and a lot of other MMO's. Stop the whining.
    I'm bemused by the number of people who consider vet rewards to be "free".

    360 days after purchasing the game for $20, you've spent $155.88. Everything that you experience as part of playing FFXIV has cost you $175.88.

    Stop kidding yourself that SE have some kind of seperate budget for Vet Rewards. These are all paid for by your sub.

    SE encourage you to keep subscribing by offering you incentives based on how much you've paid. It is not unreasonable to ask that these incentives be half-decent considering you've paid the best part of $200 to play for your first year.
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SLeonhart View Post
    I'm bemused by the number of people who consider vet rewards to be "free".

    360 days after purchasing the game for $20, you've spent $155.88. Everything that you experience as part of playing FFXIV has cost you $175.88.

    Stop kidding yourself that SE have some kind of seperate budget for Vet Rewards. These are all paid for by your sub.

    SE encourage you to keep subscribing by offering you incentives based on how much you've paid. It is not unreasonable to ask that these incentives be half-decent considering you've paid the best part of $200 to play for your first year.
    The veteran rewards are indeed "free"; and with that, I mean that they are not part of what you pay for. You pay for access to FFXIV's server and to have X amounts of slots to create characters and interact with the game. In the contract, it doesn't say, that I am aware of, that you are entitled to these perks every x amount of time, and the kind of perks they will be. Like many have said here, it's just a token of appreciation for paying for the game. I just got my behemoth mount; i know that people went ahead and payed way in advance to start riding it as soon as it was announced. That was their decision because they wanted that item earlier. The way it was intended was as a token of thanks for sticking with the game, although, or course, they also did it knowing that some people would just pay in advance for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodPact View Post
    The veteran rewards are indeed "free"; and with that, I mean that they are not part of what you pay for. You pay for access to FFXIV's server and to have X amounts of slots to create characters and interact with the game. In the contract, it doesn't say, that I am aware of, that you are entitled to these perks every x amount of time, and the kind of perks they will be. Like many have said here, it's just a token of appreciation for paying for the game. I just got my behemoth mount; i know that people went ahead and payed way in advance to start riding it as soon as it was announced. That was their decision because they wanted that item earlier. The way it was intended was as a token of thanks for sticking with the game, although, or course, they also did it knowing that some people would just pay in advance for them.
    I have a simple, straightforward question for you:

    Can I get Veteran Rewards without paying my subscription?
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLeonhart View Post
    I have a simple, straightforward question for you:

    Can I get Veteran Rewards without paying my subscription?
    If you reread what you just posted and it still makes sense to you, then there is no reason to continue this discussion.
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    Tahldon Boyoikoh
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLeonhart View Post
    I have a simple, straightforward question for you:

    Can I get Veteran Rewards without paying my subscription?
    It wouldn't be a "Veteran Reward" then. I feel as though you're just being upset about this for the sheer sake of being upset. As I said on the first page, we could just be paying, and not getting any rewards at all. You pay to play the game, that's the exchange of service, Veteran Rewards are literally just "Thank You" items for subscribing to the game for so long.

    It's a customer loyalty thing, just like Best Buy, Famous Footwear, Gamestop, and any other business that provides a "loyalty" program. They don't have to do it because you're already conducting business with them in the first place, but they do as an incentive to get you to play more and to keep coming back to them.

    It's a virtual token of appreciation. What's this big fuss even about? Just make a suggestion thread saying "Dear Devs, could we possibly have [item here] as a veteran's reward one of these days? It'd be awesome!" whereas there's this big rigmarole involving a petition to change something that the devs have already coordinated in their plans and what-have-you.

    In short, it's not that serious. It's a customer loyalty program, don't like what this round consists of? Send a suggestion. All this petitioning isn't necessary. More importantly, elaborate a possible item that you'd like to see and not throw a vague "I just want -something-" out there because technically, free teleport tokens count as "something".
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    Well... "Common" sense isn't all that common anymore, now is it?

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    Roderic Musard
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    If i create a new character i can get 50 more tickets like any other rewards ? I hope they are binded to account, because otherwise, this lead to massive abuse.
    Anyway, i don't like this reward.
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    Yes! no more free stuff!
    wait... what?
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Crystal Dreams
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 88
    I'll use the tickets but I wouldn't mind if they were changed for something else, something that'd last.

    Another fantasia has been mentioned several times but I think (as someone beat me to saying previously) a namingway card would be better. A lot of people have already used fantasia potions and subsequently aren't happy with their names no longer fitting their characters, or have held back on using their potions because they're worried about that happening. I think a namingway card would be much more appreciated than another fantasia potion.

    Regardless, the tickets will get use across the board so they aren't so bad, though comparing it to the OTP reward makes at least a full stack of 99 tickets more appropriate.
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