elitest/idiots that wont ask questions

[Shmunkster]

I wonder if that summoner ever learned... I hope so, but I somehow doubt it if that was how he was treated the one time someone tried to give him advice.

Agree. I have seen this happen also.
I, personally, always say straight away I am new. I am the Healer. If I don't then all hell is gonna break loose!
9/10 everyone is very helpful, and in boss fights they accept a wipe is likely while I get the mechanics (tho not always, sometimes we breeze thru). I am always poliet back when advice is given, even when not asked for - had that plenty times.

However, I have had experience where I was berated (very early on in the game, Titan Normal) with foul language, and recently in a CT run that was horrendous for all, to be fair. I just replied with "yup" to begin with, or "kk"...but when the caps lock went on and the dude started on the Monk and other healer too, I just ignored all further comments...thought he was originaly just a peeved person asking for us to concentrate more...turns out he was a rager!

Sometimes language is the problem tho. I went into Denzils Darkhole the other day on roulette and had newbies with me. The Tank and Black Mage said they were new. I was very nice, gave some guidance and we burst forth. The Monk was silent, but was running ahead pulling things, going the wrong way, despite my directions. I asked had he been here before, he said yes.
I continued, repeating my instructions (the tank had trouble understanding the power of the crystal light), but we got through in the end. The Monk continued to be a little crazy, but got better as we went on. When we reached the end all 3 of them got the mapping.
So, the monk had not been here before, or at least not to the end. He was silent most of the run. I think he just didn't understand english. I guess, my bad for not checking his language, but if he'd just said: francais or whatever language...I could have done the translate or such like....

So, I think, sometimes people are scared/embaressed to fess up to being new, or not understanding mechanics because they'll get teased, like you say. But others maybe are too shy/not first language with the rest of the team....
Either way, I'd prefer it if they were open. I won't ever be mean (even if someone is being mean to me - I just ignore it), and will try to help them. Payback for all the fab people I have met who help me when I say: Erm...first time here. Handy tips appreciated!

[KraggyKor]

So, I think, sometimes people are scared/embaressed to fess up to being new, or not understanding mechanics because they'll get teased,

This.

Given the toxic tanks that /leave as soon as a 'noob' puts their head above the parapets then is there any wonder new players stay silent and hope they'll get through the ordeal without being detected.

[kayuwoody]

Denzils Darkhole

Bonus points for this

[Shmunkster]

Bonus points for this

Thanks! I got lots of rude and/or funny names for places, weapons, things in this game...mainly because I'm too lazy to pronounce/spell them correctly

I'll take that bonus point!

[erzascarlett]

thx for not flaming this post. I play this game to have fun. fun is not wiping on an easy mechanic that a person refuses to ask for help in understanding it. I am starting to believe that elitests have always been there. however I do see the attitude has spread. when u have a whole sale large scale quantity of people who won t ask for help as opposed to the 2 out of 10 that will ask for help. leaving 8/10 who sit there with thumbs up there asses. I see why that mentality spread and I wish it didn't go so large scale. also the sheer amount of people who will not videos is obscenely large so yeah this problem is like having conjoined twins that wont help each other lol

[SorriorDragneel]

thx for not flaming this post. I play this game to have fun. fun is not wiping on an easy mechanic that a person refuses to ask for help in understanding it. I am starting to believe that elitests have always been there. however I do see the attitude has spread. when u have a whole sale large scale quantity of people who won t ask for help as opposed to the 2 out of 10 that will ask for help. leaving 8/10 who sit there with thumbs up there asses. I see why that mentality spread and I wish it didn't go so large scale. also the sheer amount of people who will not videos is obscenely large so yeah this problem is like having conjoined twins that wont help each other lol

I find written strategies help me more then videos and gnerally the quick summation of my role before a fight for the first time is among the best ways for me to do it right fast.