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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    This could be true. But not everyone has high level crafters. And nobody is gonna wanna spend 200K for gear, when they could get gear that is equally as good for free.
    No, there's more than enough high level crafters on every server after 7 ish months that you'll see the gear floating around..especially now that Legacy can move around. Current BiS will die out the second the market gets flooded.

    Then comes the new tomes - Yoshi said himself the system he wants to follow is the one where prior gear gets obsoleted on every update.
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    This argument is forgetting a few key points

    - 2 new allagan tomes
    - new lost city, both hm will have new tomes
    - all 3 new dungeons have i55ish min ilvl reqs


    Why would current BiS be important?? Its all going to be replaced. Because we are starting over with the new ak/wp farming to get into Coil2
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    I'm not asking anything. Go back and read announcements. 2 new tomes meaning new philo equivalent and new myth equivalent. The 3 new dungeons will have these new tomes presumably in similar fashion to what dungeons do now. With a low ilvl required to do new dungeons why would we worry about outdated gear BiS?

    Also your original post stated hm Levi and i85 weapons completely ignoring new relic and ex Levi which will more then likely be the weapons farmed. Not hm Levi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    If you need to ask me yet again why BiS is still important then you probably didn't read my full original post. Please refer to that for more information because I'm getting tried of repeating myself.
    Why will current BiS still be important when it's obsolete the second the patch hits? Did your Vanya remain BiS? Did your DL remain "BiS" when you got Allagan and Myth gear? 2.2 introduces new Allagan and tome gear, previous gear is obsolete.

    Yoshi wanted this. You can't argue against the developer of the game. You're playing semantics in stating it will be important because you'll be using it until you get the new gear, which means once you get the new gear..why would you ever use 2.0-2.1 gear? Thus: Obsolete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    He did say that, but I don't think he meant that referring to current BiS being obsolete right after a patch. If anything else, it's darklight gear that is becoming obsolete, not myth and allagan. If myth was obsolete then that would render myth class obsolete as well.
    If Coil2 drops i95, you would replace your myth/coil1 correct?
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    Farming tons of shards atm!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkghyom View Post
    Farming tons of shards atm!
    Clusters should be your target atm if you want to craft any of this gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post

    Why stick with some old gear while you can have a shiny new one! with like +2 stats!



    Vertical Progression defeats the whole "the current BiS will still be important even after the patch releases".
    i didnt know you get ALL the new stuff in your mog post the patch day or get it while doing the new content naked.

    it is still important because you need it to get the new one
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    Clusters should be your target atm if you want to craft any of this gear
    OMG! I didn't know!

    Addendum
    Patch 2.2 will introduce a host of new recipes for crafters of all skill levels, including both traditional recipes and new recipes which will test even the talents of the most accomplished artisans.
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    Last edited by Arkghyom; 03-18-2014 at 11:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    i didnt know you get ALL the new stuff in your mog post the patch day or get it while doing the new content naked.

    it is still important because you need it to get the new one

    That is a given ofc, that is core of the vertical progression.

    Get gear, use that gear to get next gear, etc etc.

    When i say it will be obsolete is that, u will never seen someone mix and match gears.

    The current BiS will be obsolete soon as the new one drop, Where as in some games, the old gear still holds value over new one in certain aspects..
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