Quote Originally Posted by Airikay View Post
Not saying that goblin is a great progression server, but you vastly underestimate how many groups clear turn 5.
The key word was relatively speaking, and I was making a comparison to other servers. When compared with other servers, Goblin is slow and very few have beaten Turn 5.

From the chatter I'm hearing, and the people I have talked to in the past couple of weeks, it seems like the majority of groups are stuck on T4. Seems.

Quote Originally Posted by Airikay View Post
In the first place not everyone does raids, but quite a few FCs that do have raid teams have all their Coil teams downing T5 at this point.
I know that everyone doesn't do raids... My post was directed at people wanting to server-transfer for progression. A lot of people left Goblin for this reason - low population and lack of overall progression.

I was surprised when I talked to people from other FCs and found out that they only had one group farming T5 with their other groups stuck on T4 or early T5 - and I had been under the impression that more of their groups had cleared it.

Of course, I could be completely wrong since we don't have the master stats in front of us and ultimately, this is what I'm deducing from what I've seen (gear, party-finder) and heard (shouts, linkshells, tells) over the past few months. Outside of DARK and 1%, I didn't really start seeing other groups with Allagan weapons until relatively recently.

I will add a disclaimer to my original post. It would be interesting to see what the actual stats are.