Game is in a desperate need of challenge.

[Cherie]

You get the best gears just running low lvl content in this game. It's not going to change, everyone gets rewarded.

Does this really make anyone happy?

There should always be some slope we are trying to climb. Think of how different social systems work.

There is Capitalism, which isn't perfect but you can "live the dream" by working your butt off and maybe someday you could get rich if you are successful.

Then there is Communism, where everyone is treated the same and given the same rewards. Nothing wrong with this system, but say you work with someone else that doesn't like to work. Nothing is going to ever make him want to work harder, he still is going to make the same money as you. In fact, even the people that would want to work hard, just for the sake of hard work, they are just looked down upon for being vain and selfish?

[odintius]

Maybe they should add a hardcore server and put in those mechanics Yoshi said was to hard doubtful will happen but eh a suggestion at least.

[silentwindfr]

You say that like it's a fact.
But many people like trophies, as a proof of the effort they have put towards something.

You find this concept everywhere really. Military medals, Sport trophies, etc.
It's kind of a thing in competitive environments, you see.
So i think the OP has a valid point.

yep a trophy... not an equipement for be more powerfull.

[zPanda]

yep a trophy... not an equipement for be more powerfull.

Award a unique/untradeable minion for defeating certain content. For example, if you beat Turn 9, you get a unique/untradeable minion that can only be obtained by defeating Turn 9. It's something you can "show off" as proof of your achievement, but at the same time isn't equipment that makes your character more powerful in-game. Also, people who are unlucky with actually getting drops will still get this minion as an award that they can display as proof of their accomplishment. This would server its purpose perfectly as a "trophy" IMO.

[Huntington]

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*whispers* You know, I've been hearing an interesting rumor recently...They say there's a game out there called "Final Fantasy XI: A Realm Reborn" and it's available to play right now...Maybe you could find more info on the front page here? http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml
Specifically that first entry for the Collaboration Event...*stops whispering and walks off*

[Swagcity]

XIV's graphics and combat system + XI's lvling /gear progression system and battle content = Perfect game imo^^

[Provoke]

Does this really make anyone happy?

There should always be some slope we are trying to climb. Think of how different social systems work.

There is Capitalism, which isn't perfect but you can "live the dream" by working your butt off and maybe someday you could get rich if you are successful.

Then there is Communism, where everyone is treated the same and given the same rewards. Nothing wrong with this system, but say you work with someone else that doesn't like to work. Nothing is going to ever make him want to work harder, he still is going to make the same money as you. In fact, even the people that would want to work hard, just for the sake of hard work, they are just looked down upon for being vain and selfish?

I think thats called Coil and EM primals. Just because its not the highest iLvl doesnt mean the sheer look of it doesnt say "Yeah I cleared insert fighthere".

[Cherie]

Award a unique/untradeable minion for defeating certain content. For example, if you beat Turn 9, you get a unique/untradeable minion that can only be obtained by defeating Turn 9. It's something you can "show off" as proof of your achievement, but at the same time isn't equipment that makes your character more powerful in-game. Also, people who are unlucky with actually getting drops will still get this minion as an award that they can display as proof of their accomplishment. This would server its purpose perfectly as a "trophy" IMO.

Does it really matter if you get a reward that improves your character or makes it "more powerful"?

I'm pretty sure the same camp that doesn't want a character to get "more powerful" would also be offended by someone getting a pet that they didn't get.

I wish someone would explain it to me. If it's just a game, what does it matter what type of reward you get. Obviously the ones that develop your character in some way are more desirable carrots at the end of the stick to chase. As a community, do most people believe that we shouldn't ever try to improve our characters in a way that isn't just handed out to everyone without effort? If it's just a type of thing I can just hold my hand out for, and expect it to be given, why do I have to chase some carrot? And if I'm not chasing some carrot, am I really even playing the game? It's like if Mario didn't have to beat Bowser to win Super Mario Brothers. What if Mario could just play the first level over and over, just killing Goomba's until the princess just randomly was set free anyway?

[Doo]

Nothing is going to ever make him want to work harder, he still is going to make the same money as you. In fact, even the people that would want to work hard, just for the sake of hard work, they are just looked down upon for being vain and selfish?

There's a new type of work in mmos now. It's call RMT, rather than working in game you work in real life to buy stuff in game. Also cash shops.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/03/12/wo...ilable-for-60/

You're not asking for challenge, you're asking for time sinks.

You know what you call an MMO without time sinks? Dead.

[Mhaeric]

Original Post. -snip-.

You're not asking for challenge, you're asking for time sinks.