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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    1) I am not negative towards the game
    2) I asked for a valid reason, this is just pointless self confirmation that the game you are playing is loved by all your Farmville buddies too
    3) As most other posters in this thread have pointed out, they aren't going to be in their office going "work work wor.... WAIT STOP THE PRESSES! SOME DILBERT ON THE FORUMS WANTS STATS NOW! SOD THE STOCKS AND GENERAL CONCENSUS AROUND THE GAME! THIS PLAYER NEEDS TO BE AFFIRMED THAT THE GAME THEY PLAY IS POPULAR!" "I don't care Yoshi, stop everything you are doing and feed that players peen now!".

    Make more sense to you yet?
    no.

    ffxi has server stats built in. By taking them out of this game they created the perception that the game is failing. If the game isn't failing and they put it back in, it will help make the game look better and attract more players. It doesn't take a whole lot of work or time. And the only way it would hurt the company would be if in fact the game is failing and losing people.

    and this dev team has made the game way better and attracted lots of people back, haven't they?
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I thought this dev team had implemented changes that were turning the game around?

    If no one is coming back to play with all the changes then isn't that pretty well admitting the game is dead?

    I don't think thats true. I mean a lot of people say they see lots of people on their server. So it shouldn't be fuel for trolls if the game has a healthy population like many people on here argue it does.

    Unless the game really is dead.....
    I just want people like you to stop for a moment and think. Just one moment. Is the game at the stage yet where they think it is complete and that they are ready to relaunch and get whatever new flak comes their way...or is it that this game isn't Free-To-Play as many of you love to say. It isn't a free to play game. It is a game that is free to play WHILE THEY FIX IT.

    I know it takes some abiliity to understand such subtleties, but it can't be beyond you surely? I doubt anyone is saying that the game is perfect, and that everything is just *fabulous, darling* but at the same time these folk have enough people to play with - for the moment- and are willing to wait until the game is, effectively, relaunched in the future.

    The changes they are making are not purely for those at Rank 50, this is a total redo from the ground up for the future of the game, not us. We bought a game, that soon enough will probably not even exist except in the past. Do I think I'll like the new version of Final Fantasy XIV? I'm not sure, but at least I can understand that the population in this game doesn't matter a toss at the moment.

    It wont be shut down unless the relaunched, revamped game goes down the tubes, and even then it may be held onto after funnelllng so much money into it. Again, this is not a free to play game, in that it was launched with the intention of not having a monthly fee, so you can't compare it. As to its standing against other pay to play games, even without the fee - yes, it isn't doing well. We know, by the Gods, WE KNOW.

    However they are trying to fix it, and it wont be one *magiic patch* and those holding out that kind of hope are deluded. I expect to see slow but steady progression (check out your journal, combat text, even your controller methods) that eventually builds up to a complete product. To think that they just snap their fingers and boom, whole new game that is awesome is what seems to be the common thoughts here. Just stop it.

    I shouldn't even need to post this, it is bloody obvious. Again, the game could have zero players, and they would still work on it - why do they care? It isn't as if this is the new teams game, this is still - in the main - the previous regimes and they are starting to implement their bigger systems at their most basic levels. I know it can be difficult to use logic, but please, please try. And yes, I am seriously passive-aggressive, but the levels of anal-retentitiveness and stupidity is unbelievable, as is the death bell tolls, if it was going to be shut down, it would be gone already.

    Admitting the game is dead...Gods...get a grip. Also, the changes from the new team aren't even fully underway in terms of implementation - SE hasn't tried to get anyone back, and I'd assume no one there expects such until they feel ready to say so. White Knight? No, I'm logging on less than ever (actually because changes are on the way rather than because of the 'state' of the game) but unlike so many in the gaming world I seem to realise things take time, you don't just point at some guy and say "Hey, make a dungeon/combat system/quest hub/storyline" and poof, next day, new *insert feature here*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    and this dev team has made the game way better and attracted lots of people back, haven't they?
    And there in lies your baseless point. You want self affirmation.

    Stop blindly arguing something you have no clue about please.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    And there in lies your baseless point. You want self affirmation.

    Stop blindly arguing something you have no clue about please.
    I know a lot about this game! i've been playing it for like a few months! I pointed out the positive merits of showing the game has a growing population but you just ignored them.
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    ffxi has server stats built in. By taking them out of this game they created the perception that the game is failing.
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    and this dev team has made the game way better and attracted lots of people back, haven't they?
    Nah, now you overdid it. Not even the whitest of whiteknights at this point actually argue that a lot of players already have come back. The discussion is about whether they will come back in the future, so if anything, releasing player numbers half a year down the road would make sense.

    ...

    You *are* joking, right? I mean, you do not really believe a lot of people are playing this game right now?

    ...

    Somebody please tell me he's joking?!
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    One thing I can say for sure, this game is not popular at the moment. It may seem that way if you have played it few months. The reason it seems that way is because the game is very empty (not many places to go). Most players spends their time in uldah, few camps & few grind places (like raptor). Highest amount of players I have seen in camps nowadays is max. 40 at the same time. Uldah seems to have about 300-400 population I think. Other cities are pretty much dead but there are still people in guilds.

    Compare that to 9 months ago, when you had so many players in each city that it was hard to find a mob that was not claimed. Then population started decreasing rapidly and everyone moved to uldah.
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    What's wrong? They don't have more than enough rope to hang themselves with yet? Posting server stats just seems like a gratuitous amount of rope at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinsui View Post
    Somebody please tell me he's joking?!
    ...I'm Joeking.
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  9. #49
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    ...I'm Joeking.
    You won.
    But if you are Joeking, does that mean he is as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeking View Post
    ...I'm Joeking.
    ........................







    *explodes*
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