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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    If I were to be fussy, the artist probably doesn't know about the "no daggers for GLA for ages" and probably just looked a a bunch of FFXIV assets and said "that looks good!

    Hence why that Monk is using the Avengers.
    And another using the coliseum subligar.


    (But, my inner "THIS WOULD BE SO COOL" would want Thief in thea future)

    And example of them /not/ using gear thats actually avaliable in the game, or not YET available for promotional artworks is here;

    http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p...jpg?1390808909
    They do not outsource their concept art and just say "go wild," it's pretty obvious in this image that they're previewing the fact that you can now use glamours, and also some new armor is being previewed on the WAR and BLM. Their concept art has always been fairly accurate. They have never drawn a wildly inaccurate player character using a weapon that obviously does not exist, in a manner that is obviously not possible, wearing equipment that is obviously not meant for the class.

    What in the seven hells is going on? Normally I see dozen page threads speculating about things with way less in-your-face evidence, the reaction here and on Reddit has been surreal. I'm not necessarily saying we're getting it this patch, but that is definitely a dagger wielding thief-like character featured in concept art depicting player characters. And there is supporting evidence that this will be coming in the not too far future based on Yoshida's past conversations about classes and on Thancred's appearance in this patch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Uh, I don't mean to be semantic, but, you do, know their already are daggers in the game? They've been in there since 1.0, as Gladiator's Arms (sure they might not be as long as depicted in that artwork, but they're definitely named as such). For instance, here's one I found in not even a second of searching: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Ae...l_Brass_Dagger
    Semantic?



    Read the OP: To dispel the immediate knee-jerk reactions, keep in mind, GLA has not had a new dagger added to the game since 1.0 and an "end-game" style "unique" dagger like the one in this image has never been in the game. Additionally, GLA never holds their dagger backwards like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    Semantic?



    Read the OP: To dispel the immediate knee-jerk reactions, keep in mind, GLA has not had a new dagger added to the game since 1.0 and an "end-game" style "unique" dagger like the one in this image has never been in the game. Additionally, GLA never holds their dagger backwards like this.
    This kind of proves her point though...just because they didn't add any new daggers doesn't mean squat...when is a Paladin's ultimate weapon a Dagger, especially in the Final Fantasy Series?

    ????

    Also: None of us have poses like those characters either...so...holding a dagger backwards means jack all lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    This kind of proves her point though...just because they didn't add any new daggers doesn't mean squat...when is a Paladin's ultimate weapon a Dagger, especially in the Final Fantasy Series?
    I'm confused, this sounds like you're arguing that this is not paladin as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamez82 View Post
    I don't think anyone is saying flat out "no"
    I am.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    They do not outsource their concept art and just say "go wild"
    I never ONCE mentioned them out-sourcing any art, Kazuya Takahashi and Akihiko Yoshida both WORK(ed) for Square Enix and did a fair bit of concept art for them. Not ONCE did I say they were out-sourcing. I challenged the fact that they might do a pick'n'mix on what looks best rather than "Is this best in slot", but obviously this is a moot point with the upcoming glamour system.

    More importantly, bang goes the theory and here's my proof. You even said it yourself;

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    They have never drawn a wildly inaccurate player character using a weapon that obviously does not exist, in a manner that is obviously not possible, wearing equipment that is obviously not meant for the class.
    So unless you can explain why that thief is wearing Vanya Breeches of Healing and a pair of acolyte boots....

    Glamours are class restricted. War/Magic cannot glamour each others armour/weapons. (IE: War cannot wear Magic. Magic cannot wear War)

    Sorry but it's not a thief, or a bard, or a gladiator.
    It appears to be a Conjurer and or Thaumaturge.


    Here you go;




    "BUT THE POSE OF THE WEAPON"

    This is concept art, no-one in this image is holding their weapon the same as they do in-game, so it's perfectly acceptable to change it up.




    Also, it's a female Miqo'te. As due to the skirt, and female version of the boots, and the feminine shape. And the breasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    Stuff
    Sorry, that's a male miqo'te, the tail is a dead giveaway if the hair wasn't enough for you, that hairstyle is only available to men. Feminine shape is completely subjective, but male miqo'te already have an androgynous physique.

    Also for those arguing this is the leviathan WHM wand, not only is it not being held the proper direction, it is also not at all the color scheme of Leviathan weapons. Also note the weapons others are using, with the possible exception of the BLM, none of them are using the Leviathan weapons. Just because they are fighting him does not mean they are all going to be drawn with his weapons. (In fact that would make less sense.)

    Also, here's the white mage weapon (AND SHIELD):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    Also for those arguing this is the leviathan WHM wand, not only is it not being held the proper direction, it is also not at all the color scheme of Leviathan weapons. Also note the weapons others are using, with the possible exception of the BLM, none of them are using the Leviathan weapons. Just because they are fighting him does not mean they are all going to be drawn with his weapons. (In fact that would make less sense.)
    Plus there are already 2 people with 2h Rod/Staff weapons, so WHM and BLM are already accounted for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    Sorry, that's a male miqo'te, the tail is a dead giveaway

    Also for those arguing this is the leviathan WHM wand, not only is it not being held the proper direction, it is also not at all the color scheme of Leviathan weapons.
    Doesn't have to be a Leviathan weapon. You're correct on that, I think it looks more like an allagan weapon or something.

    As for the "poses" none of the weapon poses in this are correct to the game, so that's a moot point, for artistic freedom its easy to "turn it around" or hold it another way to make it look more interesting..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    Sorry, that's a male miqo'te, the tail is a dead giveaway
    Looks like a woman to me, but those male male miqo'tes are rather feminine to begin with I suppose, just not to the point where they're wearing the female version of the armour pieces which I find very hard to believe the artists would get confused on and place on a male character.

    But /that doesn't matter here/ really.

    But it's very clearly a caster here in this case, simply based on the gear. And in this particular case a healer.

    (Whether we agree or disagree on the gear/shape of the person in question) they're wearing CASTER GEAR.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteXX View Post
    Plus there are already 2 people with 2h Rod/Staff weapons, so WHM and BLM are already accounted for.
    Doesn't really matter, it's promotional art-work, it's more about "Does this image look good" as compared to "Is it correct to the strict 8-man set-up in game?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni View Post
    I only say it because isee the monk with the titan weapon.
    That's not a Titan weapon;

    http://xivdb.com/?item/1743/Avengers




    Quote Originally Posted by Balfreid View Post
    I am laughing at everyone who said "It's the WHM" when the WHM is clearly on the bottom right of the picture.
    Well, I'm laughing at everyone who says it's a thief when they're wearing Caster only gear (Vanya Healing/Caster Breeches and Acolyte Boots).

    No-one is saying it's "THE" white mage, but that it might be "A" white mage.
    So it could either be a WHM or a BLM based on the gear. (Take your pick, I went for WHM just /because why not/)

    And since when did you do a primal fight with one healer? More than one white-mage is very common.

    Please consider the following post;

    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    Sorry but it's not a thief, or a bard, or a gladiator.
    It appears to be a Conjurer and or Thaumaturge.


    Here you go;




    "BUT THE POSE OF THE WEAPON"

    This is concept art, no-one in this image is holding their weapon the same as they do in-game, so it's perfectly acceptable to change it up.




    Also, it's a female Miqo'te. As due to the skirt, and female version of the boots, and the feminine shape. And the breasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    Well, I'm laughing at everyone who says it's a thief when they're wearing Caster only gear (Vanya Healing/Caster Breeches and Acolyte Boots).
    Are there more than one pair of acolyte's boots or something? mine are thigh boots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AyaneKiwara View Post
    Are there more than one pair of acolyte's boots or something? mine are thigh boots.

    http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...6.png~original

    Looks like the top half of the acolyte boots, or maybe it's the skirt?
    I'm not 100% sure sorry, it could be an artists rendition of the acolyte skirt-ending?
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