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    Quote Originally Posted by Tears-of-Death View Post
    It's not a phantom or memory. They are indeed still alive somehow. I think it's just a standoff between the two right now. 2.2 will hopefully illuminate further.
    Actually Dano is correct, there's a reason Louisoix and Van Darnus don't say anything. Van Darnus was killed and absorbed by Dalamud/Bahamut. What we see of him is nothing more than an aetheric projection and if my theory is correct on memories being able to be altered by aether (the reason why NPCs did not remember the 1.0 players) then we may be able to use the Echo on Van Darnus and Louisoix...in Louisoix's case we'll be able to see what happened at the Battle of Cartaneau Flats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
    Actually Dano is correct, there's a reason Louisoix and Van Darnus don't say anything.
    Louisoix speaks at the beginning but we don't hear what he is saying.
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    You guys are the worst with these spoilers. Not even a spoiler tag. lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
    Actually Dano is correct, there's a reason Louisoix and Van Darnus don't say anything. Van Darnus was killed and absorbed by Dalamud/Bahamut. What we see of him is nothing more than an aetheric projection and if my theory is correct on memories being able to be altered by aether (the reason why NPCs did not remember the 1.0 players) then we may be able to use the Echo on Van Darnus and Louisoix...in Louisoix's case we'll be able to see what happened at the Battle of Cartaneau Flats.
    i don't think it's about Echo . Alisae didn't have the Echo but she saw Her Grandfather as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    he's nothing more than a phantom/memory and he can be seen at the end of T5.
    Way to spoil it for everyone who hasn't beaten the turn yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
    Actually Dano is correct, there's a reason Louisoix and Van Darnus don't say anything. Van Darnus was killed and absorbed by Dalamud/Bahamut. What we see of him is nothing more than an aetheric projection and if my theory is correct on memories being able to be altered by aether (the reason why NPCs did not remember the 1.0 players) then we may be able to use the Echo on Van Darnus and Louisoix...in Louisoix's case we'll be able to see what happened at the Battle of Cartaneau Flats.
    Neither of you are correct, you just agree on the same theory. LOL I didn't know opinion = fact nowadays.

    The only correct answer is that people who watched the Turn 5 cutscene know that Darnus is walking around in some capacity. No one knows how they, why they are, or what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhound View Post
    Neither of you are correct, you just agree on the same theory. LOL I didn't know opinion = fact nowadays.

    The only correct answer is that people who watched the Turn 5 cutscene know that Darnus is walking around in some capacity. No one knows how they, why they are, or what they are.
    This. It's all just conjecture past that.
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    The current Nael is probably something like Zeromus' Malice from FFIV: The After Years. It's not the real nael, but is probably gonna pack just the same punch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Way to spoil it for everyone who hasn't beaten the turn yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Esmian View Post
    You guys are the worst with these spoilers. Not even a spoiler tag. lmao

    You know Bruce Willis was dead all along right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junpei View Post
    You know Bruce Willis was dead all along right?
    You mother....
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