Quote Originally Posted by Airlea View Post
So in other words I just got the "well, that's different..."
It IS different.

It's different because the current NMs are open-world and anyone can fight them. That's the nature of open-world.

It's different because the dungeon content is supposed to be specifically designed to be difficult, and it's not difficult if you can just steamroll through the rank 30 dungeon with a rank 50 class.

Quote Originally Posted by Airlea View Post
99% of it you won't use endgame, and even then it's situational.
Nope. There are many R30 NM items that are used in endgame: Kokoroon armor, Conqistador Elmo, Nighthawk Visor, Eternal Shade, Vambraces, Penance, Seer's Cowl, Bilaud.

Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
so youll do it at 50 because you can?
I do it at 50 because it's a waste of my time otherwise.

Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
but what happens if you friends dont want you on a 50? they want you on a 30 character, would you go down to 30 to do it? or would you tell them to F off?
i personaly would use the character appropriate to the group, and id be very happy to have the CHOICE to do so
If they asked me to come as a lower rank class, of course I would do that. I still have rank 30-ish classes to rank up so that would be fine.

It's funny that you give this scenario as your example of having a "CHOICE", since if my friends want me to play, and I want to play as a R30 Thaumatuge, I do not have the "CHOICE" to do so because I am a rank 50 THM.

Your argument for "no level caps" is for players to have the CHOICE to steamroll dungeons as a rank 50 character, not to accommodate their friends.

Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post

cuz guess what, the r30 dungeon is FILLER not meant to keep you occupied over and over and over, thats the r50 dungeons job

the r30 dungeon is filler til you get to the r50
And if the R30 dungeon had level caps, it would no longer be filler, and would actually be real, repeatable content, just like the rank 50 dungeon.

This is the whole reason why BCNM fights are level capped in FF11.