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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    As much as I loathed Abyssea, it at least gave me reason to see parts of La Thiene.
    I always help players do AF quests, nation quests, limit break quests, main story quests, expansions quests, hunt nms, xp grinding, farming, bcnms, etc. I found plenty of reasons to going back to areas that I've been to before.

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    You're just biased,
    Aren't we all? The difference is I don't pretend not to be bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    I always help players do AF quests, nation quests, limit break quests, main story quests, expansions quests, hunt nms, etc. I found plenty of reasons to going back to areas that I've been to before.
    None of those things involved you traveling to certain corners of the maps. The entire south west section of La Thiene, for example. It was wasted space until Abyssea put it to use.

    Just compare the use of the map in Davoi to the use in La Vaule (S). The difference is quite apparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    None of those things involved you traveling to certain corners of the maps. The entire south west section of La Thiene, for example.
    There were plenty of places in FF12 I didn't go to but that doesn't mean it should just change into a linear corridor like FF13 though. Players still got lost trying to find quests or got chased by mobs and had to run in different directions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    I'm not arguing that...
    Those quests that I mentioned did take you to many different areas all over Vana Diel though. Just take a lot at Rise of Zilart quest to get Sky access as an example. I mean where there still unused areas in FFXI? Sure, but they did a great job of making areas relevant for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    There were plenty of places in FF12 I didn't go to but that doesn't mean it should just change into a linear corridor like FF13 though.
    I'm not arguing that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Those quests that I mentioned did take you to many different areas all over Vana Diel though. Just take a lot at Rise of Zilart quest to get Sky access as an example.
    And still, vast areas of the zones had no purpose... XIV pretty much did the same thing as Sky access though, albeit on a smaller scale. Did I visit the Beastman strongholds while leveling? Nope. Did I visit them for Primal/Crystal Tower access? Yep.
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