Harsher Penalties for Tanks who Immediately Leave Duty Finder

[Downdrop]

You have 120 people in your FC, maybe ask one of the tanks in there to play with you?


I almost never run into this on my data center where a tank just drops instantly. What are you running where you run into this?

Mostly in The Stone Vigil or Pharos Sirius, but I've had it happen in others as well just not as frequently. The tanks in my FC run occasionally, but unless I actually need help because I can't do something on my own then I don't bother them. And asking one of them doesn't really solve this problem for all the other people who're having the same thing happen...

[Soulburn32]

Mostly in The Stone Vigil or Pharos Sirius, but I've had it happen in others as well just not as frequently. The tanks in my FC run occasionally, but unless I actually need help because I can't do something on my own then I don't bother them. And asking one of them doesn't really solve this problem for all the other people who're having the same thing happen...

Probably because those 2 have a high fail rate. Without seeing what happened could be that whoever it was saw your gear or something and decided the penalty for leaving was faster than suffering a fail idk. Like I said I almost never see this on my data server.

[Downdrop]

Probably because those 2 have a high fail rate. Without seeing what happened could be that whoever it was saw your gear or something and decided the penalty for leaving was faster than suffering a fail idk. Like I said I almost never see this on my data server.

I'm in a full set of darklight gear on my WHM and SCH...I'm pretty sure my gear isn't the reason why the tank is bailing on the duty. I never watch the cutscenes, so I get to watch the tank spawn in, and before having time to examine anybody's gear they just leave immediately when they see the dungeon.

IMO, they should not be queuing for "Roulette" if they are not prepared to deal with what comes up - it's screwing over the entire party.

[ExKage]

And yet if they didn't go for roulette, many other dungeons would have other parties waiting. I know that when I do low level roulette I don't particularly enjoy Stone Vigil or Aurum Vale as either tank or dps. I've never left a duty before except for when the group has previously agreed to it. In fact I in-progress joined a Cutter's Cry run because my friend's tank did leave at the beginning and neither dps wanted to leave. Then of course one of them bailed as soon as they hit 50 -_-. I can understand the frustration of being willing to help with a large majority of dungeons but not particularly being willing to put oneself through a very small minority of them. Like I said before, you need to also find a good incentive for people to run through these frustrating dungeons (subjective opinion of theirs) that is much better than a penalty or else tanks just won't queue. Then you shorten the pool and hence increase the waiting time.

[mythicrose]

IMO, they should not be queuing for "Roulette" if they are not prepared to deal with what comes up - it's screwing over the entire party.

The tank is in his/her right to bail at any point...just like healers and dps. Is it annoying when a tank or healer drops right away when you are a dps class? Yes. Harsher penalties only deters people from running dungeons. If you want shorter queues, try telling SE to revamp party size from 1 tank, 1 healer, 2 dps to 1 tank, 1 healer, 3-4 dps.

Seriously...penalties is not the way to go. Many will just stick with FC/LS and leave the DF alone.

[Downdrop]

Seriously...penalties is not the way to go. Many will just stick with FC/LS and leave the DF alone.

If there are so many people against either a longer wait for abandoning your party for no good reason at all, or as the alternative solution was suggested, a Leaver calculation system, then I will leave DF alone and stick to FC/LS. My time is valuable to me, and when other people waste it for no good reason other then "I didn't want to do it," then I lose all incentive to play as well.

[randomrope]

Add something constructive to the thread rather then act like a child with random insults.

Ok. All punishments should be exactly the same for any job that leaves a que or a duty.

[Downdrop]

Ok. All punishments should be exactly the same for any job that leaves a que or a duty.

That has already been gone over. Thanks. Refer to the earlier pages of this thread.

[mythicrose]

My time is valuable to me, and when other people waste it for no good reason other then "I didn't want to do it," then I lose all incentive to play as well.

This, right here. You value your time. So do the bailers. A quick glimpse at party (especially at the level 50 dungeons) is enough to see if the party is geared enough for a quick or smooth run...or not. You join PS and see just AF gear or spirit bonding gear on dps/healers/tanks...you know you're in for a rougher time than necessary. I'll bail in that circumstance if vote abandon doesn't pass regardless of my role.

Like you, my time is valuable to me.

[Maero]

I dunno but low level duty roulette for example (once you hit lvl50) always has a bonus for either tank or healer. Is this not an incentive?
Dps have a super long wait time and no bonus and rarely do you ever see a dps leave.
Dunno if this idea should be implemented op, but do get what you are saying