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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganizationXIll View Post
    So.. I think we can all agree that a lot of endgame players are leaving the game now. Most would probably agree that lack of endgame content is a factor. However I do not believe it is the main issue. The current endgame content for the people that can down 1-4 easily is basically a Monday night raid and done for the week. The extreme primals are literally just mediocre i90 accessories and i90 weapons for alts. If you have already done that for all the alts you care about there just isn't much to do after Monday night.
    And what vanishingly small percentage of the 1.8m players this game has fall into that category: 1% maybe, at best?

    For the rest of us, the VAST MAJORITY, clearing T4 is a far-off dream so there's nothing wrong with the end-game for us. Don't let these forums fool you, they're a very, very, VERY small percentage of those playing the game and the views here are a gross distortion of the reality of the majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    For the rest of us, the VAST MAJORITY, clearing T4 is a far-off dream so there's nothing wrong with the end-game for us. Don't let these forums fool you, they're a very, very, VERY small percentage of those playing the game and the views here are a gross distortion of the reality of the majority.
    KraggyKor nailed it with this. Myself and my three friends are quite happy with ARR - one of which is on the PS3, the other two and myself on PC. We enjoy the game and, while we don't praise it as perfect, it's definitely a lot of fun, so we'll be here for awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    And what vanishingly small percentage of the 1.8m players this game has fall into that category: 1% maybe, at best?

    For the rest of us, the VAST MAJORITY, clearing T4 is a far-off dream so there's nothing wrong with the end-game for us. Don't let these forums fool you, they're a very, very, VERY small percentage of those playing the game and the views here are a gross distortion of the reality of the majority.
    Are you trolling??? Do you honestly think that this game currently has 1.8M ACTIVE people playing??? Yes I am very sure they have sold 1.8M copies of the game but I am also pretty sure right at this minute they have way less than that actually subbed. A quick look at my friend list that has only seen one friend log in over the past week indicates a lot of people are not currently playing the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    And what vanishingly small percentage of the 1.8m players this game has fall into that category: 1% maybe, at best?

    For the rest of us, the VAST MAJORITY, clearing T4 is a far-off dream so there's nothing wrong with the end-game for us. Don't let these forums fool you, they're a very, very, VERY small percentage of those playing the game and the views here are a gross distortion of the reality of the majority.
    Don't be ridiculous. I am rarely on the forums. I have noticed that on my server we have gone from maybe 400+ people in Mor Dhona around November; to <100 people most of the time. Other areas? In all the outside areas of Limsa Lominsa combined, I just counted 11 people. The game is dying. The percentage of turn 4 clearing players has to be AT LEAST 1/3 by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganizationXIll View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. I am rarely on the forums. I have noticed that on my server we have gone from maybe 400+ people in Mor Dhona around November; to <100 people most of the time. Other areas? In all the outside areas of Limsa Lominsa combined, I just counted 11 people. The game is dying. The percentage of turn 4 clearing players has to be AT LEAST 1/3 by now.
    The game still has to drop until it gets to a comfortable long term player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganizationXIll View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. I am rarely on the forums. I have noticed that on my server we have gone from maybe 400+ people in Mor Dhona around November; to <100 people most of the time. Other areas? In all the outside areas of Limsa Lominsa combined, I just counted 11 people. The game is dying. The percentage of turn 4 clearing players has to be AT LEAST 1/3 by now.
    Every MMO has it's launch boost in numbers, simply because ppl want to try something new or the marketing/media hype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxiLady View Post
    A quick look at my friend list that has only seen one friend log in over the past week indicates a lot of people are not currently playing the game.
    Because the friend list of one player one one server is somehow an accurate indicator.

    Quote Originally Posted by OrganizationXIll View Post
    I have noticed that on my server we have gone from maybe 400+ people in Mor Dhona around November; to <100 people most of the time. Other areas? In all the outside areas of Limsa Lominsa combined, I just counted 11 people. The game is dying. The percentage of turn 4 clearing players has to be AT LEAST 1/3 by now.
    Because the experience of one player one one server allows him to pull seemingly random fractions out of thin air. And even if that 1/3 was remotely accurate (which lets face it, only someone at SE could possibly know something like that), that would still mean 2/3 haven't cleared T4 by your accounts, which isn't particularly indicative of a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    And what vanishingly small percentage of the 1.8m players this game has fall into that category: 1% maybe, at best?
    Yoshida:
    Well, the number for daily active user count can be misleading.... The peak time for Japan and oversea countries are different, for example. But if we simply look at the number of people logging in every day, I'd say we have about 500,000 people world wide.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-FFXIV-and-DQX

    What 1.8m? Anyway,

    For the rest of us, the VAST MAJORITY, clearing T4 is a far-off dream
    Which is why they nerf content into the ground, for those who for some reason can't clear T4 even though it's far easier than 1 and 2 (normal way.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganizationXIll View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. I am rarely on the forums. I have noticed that on my server we have gone from maybe 400+ people in Mor Dhona around November; to <100 people most of the time. Other areas? In all the outside areas of Limsa Lominsa combined, I just counted 11 people. The game is dying. The percentage of turn 4 clearing players has to be AT LEAST 1/3 by now.
    you kidding right ? It's not even sure that 50% of the players have a relic... 1/3 of people with a relic maybe. Not 1/3 of all the population.

    Also, you'll be in good right to say that "the game is dying" if player base drop after the 1st expansion, ot before...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Yoshida:
    Well, the number for daily active user count can be misleading.... The peak time for Japan and oversea countries are different, for example. But if we simply look at the number of people logging in every day, I'd say we have about 500,000 people world wide.
    What 1.8m?
    you surely know that 500k daily connection doesn't mean 500k active players ? Not the 1.8 million keys sold, of course, but we might be around 800k at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    you kidding right ? It's not even sure that 50% of the players have a relic... 1/3 of people with a relic maybe. Not 1/3 of all the population.

    Also, you'll be in good right to say that "the game is dying" if player base drop after the 1st expansion, ot before...
    Other worlds must be vastly different than Goblin then. I would be willing to say that 75% of players are at endgame on Goblin. (That play disciple of war and magic) If not then where do they go? They must have a secret pre-50 zone or something, because I never see more than 50 players outside of Mor Dhona and Wineport a day.
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