My Proposed Solutions to Improve Player Retention

[OrganizationXIll]

So.. I think we can all agree that a lot of endgame players are leaving the game now. Most would probably agree that lack of endgame content is a factor. However I do not believe it is the main issue. The current endgame content for the people that can down 1-4 easily is basically a Monday night raid and done for the week. The extreme primals are literally just mediocre i90 accessories and i90 weapons for alts. If you have already done that for all the alts you care about there just isn't much to do after Monday night.

A couple of changes I think would help bring players back for 2.2 and to stay:

• Make Coil Something you need to continually do.
  1. Change the weekly lockout on coil 1-9 to a Daily lockout.
  2. Drop the loot percentages to total around 50% per chest in each turn. (Meaning 50/50 chance you might not get loot at all.)
  3. Offer two difficulties. The harder difficulty would increase drop rates to 75% per chest.
• Change Crystal Tower to a 3 part raid.
  1. One drop right side gear, one left side, and the third drop an upgradable weapon.
  2. In addition to loot drops, After you beat all 3 you get a token. When you get a set amount (10-15?) you can cash them in and upgrade your i80 weapon to an i90. (Or comparable 2.2 ilvls)
  3. Keep the weekly loot lock in place, but make it per part.
• Add an extreme primal roulette for people that have cleared them.
  1. On completion give 5-7K gil, 200/100/50 tomes (Philosophy, Mythology, Newcurrency, respectively), and a 20% or so chance at a roulette exclusive mount.
  2. Keep the Daily style of the roulette.

The reason for the daily lockout change is because (at least on my server) a lot of decent players are getting left out of coil groups. I feel the reason is that the best teams don't want to split up and help other people because they want to waste their time and lose their spot in the group for the week or skip some of the turns to get their spot back.

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Because they would get their gear from tomes before they ever get the loot from the chest lol.. wouldnt that piss off anyone? I did literally 20 Ct runs for my chest.i wasnt too happy about all that time dumped into the game for just one thing.

Adjust my numbers then. 75% normal and 100% for Hard mode? Remember you have 2 chests per turn for 8 people. As compared to 1 chest in ~same amount~ of time as a turn of coil. (Turn of Coil = about 10-15 minutes | Crystal tower = ~ 45-60 minutes)

terrible ideas.

=> even with 50% loot chance, you'll still get 3 times as many gear as you get know. Remember all the threads "This game is dull no content I farm T5 for ages" ? You really want that after only 1 month ? Plus no progression whatsoever would be possible, as you'd have to do T6/7 (for example) each day to be able to try and progress on T8.

I can tell you'll push way more people to the exit by doing that, as for many they will never get a chance to see the top end content unless they create some "skip parties" just like we can see now with Cad or T3 skipping...

=> what exactly is the point of your CT system ?

=> same here, what's the point in the roulette ? People would just try and drop until they get garuda or ifrit to faceroll it and get fast tomes. People are struggling at titan, which will NEVER be run by some roulette guys. Be honest, they drop even on story mode, why would they do extreme mode ?

Fair point on the progression. Maybe just give you the option to redo the first turns after you complete them each day. Or maybe only turns 1-5 like that. Then 2 months from now add this system for 6-9.

The point of the Crystal Tower changes is to give Crystal tower a reason to exist. Personally I don't see the point of Crystal Tower right now. Most of my Free company shares this opinion I believe.

The point would be to get people in the fights again and to give them something else to do that is worth their time. I personally can't find or make an Ifrit Ex party anymore and the Duty Finder didn't find 8 people in nearly 3 hours a couple of nights ago.

Also, 30 minutes isn't enough of a penalty. Make it 2 hours or lock them out of all roulettes if they leave or something.

[TheUltimate3]

[*]Drop the loot percentages to total around 50% per chest in each turn. (Meaning 50/50 chance you might not get loot at all.)[*]Offer two difficulties. The harder difficulty would increase drop rates to 75% per chest.

Wouldn't that just piss people off?

[OrganizationXIll]

Wouldn't that just piss people off?

How so? Reduces the amount of gear being put out but you can just run it again tomorrow and try again. They whole point of my post is to keep people playing.

[Alazier]

Because they would get their gear from tomes before they ever get the loot from the chest lol.. wouldnt that piss off anyone? I did literally 20 Ct runs for my chest.i wasnt too happy about all that time dumped into the game for just one thing.

[KraggyKor]

So.. I think we can all agree that a lot of endgame players are leaving the game now. Most would probably agree that lack of endgame content is a factor. However I do not believe it is the main issue. The current endgame content for the people that can down 1-4 easily is basically a Monday night raid and done for the week. The extreme primals are literally just mediocre i90 accessories and i90 weapons for alts. If you have already done that for all the alts you care about there just isn't much to do after Monday night.

And what vanishingly small percentage of the 1.8m players this game has fall into that category: 1% maybe, at best?

For the rest of us, the VAST MAJORITY, clearing T4 is a far-off dream so there's nothing wrong with the end-game for us. Don't let these forums fool you, they're a very, very, VERY small percentage of those playing the game and the views here are a gross distortion of the reality of the majority.

[Sheer]

For the rest of us, the VAST MAJORITY, clearing T4 is a far-off dream so there's nothing wrong with the end-game for us. Don't let these forums fool you, they're a very, very, VERY small percentage of those playing the game and the views here are a gross distortion of the reality of the majority.

KraggyKor nailed it with this. Myself and my three friends are quite happy with ARR - one of which is on the PS3, the other two and myself on PC. We enjoy the game and, while we don't praise it as perfect, it's definitely a lot of fun, so we'll be here for awhile.

[Kuwagami]

terrible ideas.

=> even with 50% loot chance, you'll still get 3 times as many gear as you get know. Remember all the threads "This game is dull no content I farm T5 for ages" ? You really want that after only 1 month ? Plus no progression whatsoever would be possible, as you'd have to do T6/7 (for example) each day to be able to try and progress on T8.

I can tell you'll push way more people to the exit by doing that, as for many they will never get a chance to see the top end content unless they create some "skip parties" just like we can see now with Cad or T3 skipping...

=> what exactly is the point of your CT system ?

=> same here, what's the point in the roulette ? People would just try and drop until they get garuda or ifrit to faceroll it and get fast tomes. People are struggling at titan, which will NEVER be run by some roulette guys. Be honest, they drop even on story mode, why would they do extreme mode ?

[FoxiLady]

And what vanishingly small percentage of the 1.8m players this game has fall into that category: 1% maybe, at best?

For the rest of us, the VAST MAJORITY, clearing T4 is a far-off dream so there's nothing wrong with the end-game for us. Don't let these forums fool you, they're a very, very, VERY small percentage of those playing the game and the views here are a gross distortion of the reality of the majority.

Are you trolling??? Do you honestly think that this game currently has 1.8M ACTIVE people playing??? Yes I am very sure they have sold 1.8M copies of the game but I am also pretty sure right at this minute they have way less than that actually subbed. A quick look at my friend list that has only seen one friend log in over the past week indicates a lot of people are not currently playing the game.

[OrganizationXIll]

And what vanishingly small percentage of the 1.8m players this game has fall into that category: 1% maybe, at best?

For the rest of us, the VAST MAJORITY, clearing T4 is a far-off dream so there's nothing wrong with the end-game for us. Don't let these forums fool you, they're a very, very, VERY small percentage of those playing the game and the views here are a gross distortion of the reality of the majority.

Don't be ridiculous. I am rarely on the forums. I have noticed that on my server we have gone from maybe 400+ people in Mor Dhona around November; to <100 people most of the time. Other areas? In all the outside areas of Limsa Lominsa combined, I just counted 11 people. The game is dying. The percentage of turn 4 clearing players has to be AT LEAST 1/3 by now.

[Saccharin]

Don't be ridiculous. I am rarely on the forums. I have noticed that on my server we have gone from maybe 400+ people in Mor Dhona around November; to <100 people most of the time. Other areas? In all the outside areas of Limsa Lominsa combined, I just counted 11 people. The game is dying. The percentage of turn 4 clearing players has to be AT LEAST 1/3 by now.

The game still has to drop until it gets to a comfortable long term player base.