AOE Toggle Needs to GO

[darkstarpoet1]

No, they're just catering to every idiot with an account. If I make a thread that says "I HETE HP BARS, IT MAKES THE GAME 2 EASY KUZ I CAN SEE WHEN IM GUNNA DIE", it would get probably get support from all of the other masochists, and eventually get some sort of dev response.

This is the problem with official forums. Even the most incompetent players have a voice, and if they're a loud enough crybaby they'll end up on SE's radar.

no the problems are the people that were happy with parts of the game do not come in here and cry like little 5 year old kids about touching one button being too hard to figure out. the ones that are happy with the system the way it is for the most part do not come in here. if they are happy with aoe toggle why would they come in here and post? they have no reason to.

if they want to listen to the players voice they should have a players poll to see what people think about it overall. they want to do what they want to do so they can say they are changing the game. it doesn't matter to this team whether the changes are good or bad as long as it looks like they are doing something.

I'm going to assume the dev team has a good reason and an even better replacement for toggle. The toggle was a good, easy to use feature. I'm hoping they something equally as intuitive and easy to use ready to replace it. I also hope the dev team has the sense to share a little more info with us to subdue the impending shitstorm.

you mean like the good reason for nerfing the nm's months ago that were already too easy? they changed that months before any battle changes were made just to change something. it had no reason behind it other than it showed they did something. of course that something was horrible, but hey is was something i guess.

[Spellbinder]

I'm going to assume the dev team has a good reason and an even better replacement for toggle. The toggle was a good, easy to use feature. I'm hoping they something equally as intuitive and easy to use ready to replace it. I also hope the dev team has the sense to share a little more info with us to subdue the impending shitstorm.

Sadly I don't think the storm of poop can be stopped regardless of what they tell us.

[Anty]

i don't like the aoe toggle but i got used to it... the problem with aoe and none-aoe spells would be, at least with the current system, that you run out of ability slots way too fast... Many things with the current system limit you more then give you freedom, im really curious how the changes to the classes/battle/jobs whatever are gonna look like.

[darkstarpoet1]

Sadly I don't think the storm of poop can be stopped regardless of what they tell us.

the problem is they got to listen to the same few people argue against something that worked and now it comes down to hearing from the people that likes the system. they were allowed to get their voice out and now the other side should be allowed to do the same. this is pure ignorance to add double the spells to an already cluttered action bar.

[Dreamer]

I really hope they make it similar to BRs so that you can press a different key to cast it as an aoe (I vote for pressing the button mapped to the 'Open Map' key to cast as an aoe for controller users, and let keyboard/mouse users hold down 'z' while selecting the spell to choose it as an aoe). I REALLY don't want to have to set up a mountain of action bars just so I can have decent aoe functionality.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

AOE Toggle needs to be removed.

Your wish has been granted. /closethread

[Tsuga]

Your wish has been granted. /closethread

At the expense of a system that worked just fine.

/closegame. It's doomed to fail anyway if all SE is going to do is pander to the countless former XI whiners that will pick apart anything about this game that they haven't been doing for the last 7 years, even if it functions just fine/is a step forward.

Take some pride in your effing work SE, because you DID get some things right. This happens to be one of them.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

At the expense of a system that worked just fine.

/closegame. It's doomed to fail anyway if all SE is going to do is pander to the countless former XI whiners that will pick apart anything about this game that they haven't been doing for the last 7 years, even if it functions just fine/is a step forward.

Take some pride in your effing work SE, because you DID get some things right. This happens to be one of them.

Sorry dude, but majority wins. I don't want level caps on the new dungeons but the majority wants that, so odds are we're going to have that in the future. AOE toggle never really bothered me, so I don't care if they take it out or leave it in, but I'm sorry that you're losing something you like.

[Arcell]

I really hope they make it similar to BRs so that you can press a different key to cast it as an aoe (I vote for pressing the button mapped to the 'Open Map' key to cast as an aoe for controller users, and let keyboard/mouse users hold down 'z' while selecting the spell to choose it as an aoe). I REALLY don't want to have to set up a mountain of action bars just so I can have decent aoe functionality.

That's almost exactly how it is right now. Controller users: Press emote button when selecting spell target. Keyboard users: Press Z when selecting spell target.

The system is good, the main problem is that it's not explained anywhere. That's not Yoshida's fault though, that was put in by Tanaka but never explained anywhere.

I would prefer they keep the toggle in place unless they have a better system planned. I feel that if people knew how to toggle efficiently they wouldn't complain about it at all. Kind of like how people complained about BR before they knew how to efficiently use it.

[Anty]

At the expense of a system that worked just fine.

/closegame. It's doomed to fail anyway if all SE is going to do is pander to the countless former XI whiners that will pick apart anything about this game that they haven't been doing for the last 7 years, even if it functions just fine/is a step forward.

Take some pride in your effing work SE, because you DID get some things right. This happens to be one of them.

you honestly think that its the ffxi fans fault? ... i think the whiners and complainers are coming from all mmo directions,
and the aoe toggle has nothing to do with ffxi, people from aion, wow or whatfuckingever could be asking for the same?
The reason why people compare this game to ffxi is SE fault, its a bad copy of ffxi which has more flaws then i can think of.

Jobs, spells, abilities, races, even the city themes in a way are copies of ffxi. the BR system is a copy that needs a lot of love still or has to be redone, the jobsystem is not so far away from the subjob system of ffxi either... so SE is to blaim for the many comparisons to ffxi, not the ffxi fans.

Nothing was/is really new in that game. But it lacked almost everything that should be the bare mininum of almost every mmo. If this game was called wow 2 people would compare it to wow as well, every time they start typing...