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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    Suppose you are in Titan HM Phase 5 as a DRG. You have 3 members dead like you said, and you decide to hold off on the LB3. Realistically speaking, what are the odds that a healer will be able to ress all 3 dead members (who may have even been landslided). Are you going to hold off on a Limit Break that just got to Level 3 somehow hoping that healers will be able to resurrect people?
    If you have 3 dead members in Titan, your LB will do so little damage, you might as well not use it and eat a landslide/weight out of carelessness.

    Attack LB is the combine raw stats of all members of the PT. with 3 dps dead, you LB is basically crappier then regular skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    If you have 3 dead members in Titan, your LB will do so little damage, you might as well not use it and eat a landslide/weight out of carelessness.

    Attack LB is the combine raw stats of all members of the PT. with 3 dps dead, you LB is basically crappier then regular skills.
    I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks!
    Please do not keep that in mind. That poster has not one clue what the blue hell they are talking about.

    Just... don't listen to that person. Please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    If you have 3 dead members in Titan, your LB will do so little damage, you might as well not use it and eat a landslide/weight out of carelessness.

    Attack LB is the combine raw stats of all members of the PT. with 3 dps dead, you LB is basically crappier then regular skills.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the LB based on the ilv of the weapons of everyone in the group? I thought I seen a post on Reddit about a group that tested the LB with full gear on, and then naked with only weapons, and with low level weapons. It has been awhile but I'm pretty sure LB really doesn't change if someone is dead does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lafier View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the LB based on the ilv of the weapons of everyone in the group? I thought I seen a post on Reddit about a group that tested the LB with full gear on, and then naked with only weapons, and with low level weapons. It has been awhile but I'm pretty sure LB really doesn't change if someone is dead does it?
    Go test it, any melee will realize their LB is worthless crap with enough people dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Go test it, any melee will realize their LB is worthless crap with enough people dead.
    Until I can get more people that agree with you, I'm going to go off on the assumption that it doesn't. Mainly because this game has been out for months and this is the first I've ever heard of dead people affecting limit break damage. I never really get to play as melee myself, so if more people can confirm what you said I'd be more inclined to believe it.

    Edit: I've had people tell me it still goes off the KO'd person's ilv and that dead people are irrelevant. As such I'm not sure how much water your cup holds with me (personally, everyone else is inclined to believe what they wish).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Go test it, any melee will realize their LB is worthless crap with enough people dead.
    Melee LB is based off the average weapon damage of all the melee dps (DRGs and MNKs) in the party. Whether or not there's people dead is irrelevant, it will always do the same damage.

    Caster LB is the same but average weapon magic damage of your caster classes in the party. This does not include healers.

    Glad I could clear that up for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    Melee LB is based off the average weapon damage of all the melee dps (DRGs and MNKs) in the party. Whether or not there's people dead is irrelevant, it will always do the same damage.

    Caster LB is the same but average weapon magic damage of your caster classes in the party. This does not include healers.

    Glad I could clear that up for you.
    Test before you speak. Some of us do LB over and over easily see a trend, compare logs, and it's pretty easy to even eyeball the results after so many runs.

    Good titan group:
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    Bad titan group
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 03-12-2014 at 02:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Test before you speak. Some of us do LB over and over easily see a trend, compare logs, and it's pretty easy to even eyeball the results after so many runs.

    Good titan group:
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    Bad titan group
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    you are right at this

    at least before limit break used a light appear under every player

    been ages since i played as DPS but thanks i learned something new
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Test before you speak. Some of us do LB over and over easily see a trend, compare logs, and it's pretty easy to even eyeball the results after so many runs.

    Good titan group:
    |--------|

    Bad titan group
    |---|

    Oh, this is going to be good.

    You shall have your testing tonight, special snowflake.

    As someone who routinely drags newbies through Titan - and by newbies, I mean folks who have just been dragged from Chimera to Titan without knowing what is going on in the slightest - I can safely say that our Titan fights typically end with four or five active personnel.

    You shall have your testing.
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    Last edited by Eagleheart; 03-12-2014 at 11:25 PM.