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    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    we usually have our melees bust out the LB as soon as it hits 3 bar, unless we are saving it for something special. but for run of the mill tank and spanks its best to just get that dmg out asap. the longer the fight lasts the more of a strain it is on everyone, tanks, healers and dps included
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhandra View Post
    we usually have our melees bust out the LB as soon as it hits 3 bar, unless we are saving it for something special. but for run of the mill tank and spanks its best to just get that dmg out asap. the longer the fight lasts the more of a strain it is on everyone, tanks, healers and dps included
    Opposite really. What kills groups is over reaching, especially LBs. It's not the longer battle that strains tanks and healers, it's the blanant disregard for teamwork, and breaks formations and throw the pt out of sync.

    A meteor in the middle of weights/landslide for instance will wipe your pt from the graphics spam.

    Damage LB is also dependent on the combine number of members. If you have 3 dead members, save LB. It will do such crappy damage anyway, it's not worth it. Tank LB is also the only instant LB to use counter to damage, etc.

    You screw everyone else if you just blow a LB however innocent. First and formemost know the content.
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    Suppose you are in Titan HM Phase 5 as a DRG. You have 3 members dead like you said, and you decide to hold off on the LB3. Realistically speaking, what are the odds that a healer will be able to ress all 3 dead members (who may have even been landslided). Are you going to hold off on a Limit Break that just got to Level 3 somehow hoping that healers will be able to resurrect people?

    I'm asking you this because I was faced with a similar case yesterday (half the group was dead), and I used my Lv 3 LB and it even allowed me to pull off a Lv 1 to finish off the fight. When it is strategically viable to use an LB then yes, you should use it then (Garuda, Ifrit, Ultima), but hesitating and overthinking a chance to pull off an LB more times than not just leaves it sitting there while it could have been used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    Suppose you are in Titan HM Phase 5 as a DRG. You have 3 members dead like you said, and you decide to hold off on the LB3. Realistically speaking, what are the odds that a healer will be able to ress all 3 dead members (who may have even been landslided). Are you going to hold off on a Limit Break that just got to Level 3 somehow hoping that healers will be able to resurrect people?
    If you have 3 dead members in Titan, your LB will do so little damage, you might as well not use it and eat a landslide/weight out of carelessness.

    Attack LB is the combine raw stats of all members of the PT. with 3 dps dead, you LB is basically crappier then regular skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    If you have 3 dead members in Titan, your LB will do so little damage, you might as well not use it and eat a landslide/weight out of carelessness.

    Attack LB is the combine raw stats of all members of the PT. with 3 dps dead, you LB is basically crappier then regular skills.
    I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks!
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    Player Eagleheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks!
    Please do not keep that in mind. That poster has not one clue what the blue hell they are talking about.

    Just... don't listen to that person. Please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    If you have 3 dead members in Titan, your LB will do so little damage, you might as well not use it and eat a landslide/weight out of carelessness.

    Attack LB is the combine raw stats of all members of the PT. with 3 dps dead, you LB is basically crappier then regular skills.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the LB based on the ilv of the weapons of everyone in the group? I thought I seen a post on Reddit about a group that tested the LB with full gear on, and then naked with only weapons, and with low level weapons. It has been awhile but I'm pretty sure LB really doesn't change if someone is dead does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lafier View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the LB based on the ilv of the weapons of everyone in the group? I thought I seen a post on Reddit about a group that tested the LB with full gear on, and then naked with only weapons, and with low level weapons. It has been awhile but I'm pretty sure LB really doesn't change if someone is dead does it?
    Go test it, any melee will realize their LB is worthless crap with enough people dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Go test it, any melee will realize their LB is worthless crap with enough people dead.
    Until I can get more people that agree with you, I'm going to go off on the assumption that it doesn't. Mainly because this game has been out for months and this is the first I've ever heard of dead people affecting limit break damage. I never really get to play as melee myself, so if more people can confirm what you said I'd be more inclined to believe it.

    Edit: I've had people tell me it still goes off the KO'd person's ilv and that dead people are irrelevant. As such I'm not sure how much water your cup holds with me (personally, everyone else is inclined to believe what they wish).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Go test it, any melee will realize their LB is worthless crap with enough people dead.
    Melee LB is based off the average weapon damage of all the melee dps (DRGs and MNKs) in the party. Whether or not there's people dead is irrelevant, it will always do the same damage.

    Caster LB is the same but average weapon magic damage of your caster classes in the party. This does not include healers.

    Glad I could clear that up for you.
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