Instanced Raids Unveiled!

[Rentahamster]

I thought his point was, if the dungeon offers SP and you cap it, then you won't gain SP after being capped.

They can't have a level cap on the rank 25 dungeon because it gives xp. People will soon lvl past the cap say 30 and then can't access that dungeon again, till they have another class in that level range.

Doesn't seem that way to me.

Besides, who says you can't still earn SP even if you're delevel-synced?

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Doesn't seem that way to me.

Besides, who says you can't still earn SP even if you're delevel-synced?

If you are capped, by definition you can't go higher. I assume it would work the same as being capped at 50.

[Rentahamster]

If you are capped, by definition you can't go higher. I assume it would work the same as being capped at 50.

I'm talking about in the scenario where you are a rank 42 or whatever class desynced to rank 30.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

I'm talking about in the scenario where you are a rank 42 or whatever class desynced to rank 30.

A cap is a cap isn't it? Even at rank 42, if you are CAPPED at r30, by definition you shouldn't be getting SP. Can someone confirm how it was in CoP? I'm pretty sure that if you went into a lvl 30 Promy on a rank 40 job, you didn't get XP.

[Focant]

A cap is a cap isn't it? Even at rank 42, if you are CAPPED at r30, by definition you shouldn't be getting SP. Can someone confirm how it was in CoP? I'm pretty sure that if you went into a lvl 30 Promy on a rank 40 job, you didn't get XP.

If you were capped everything about you was changed, including your ability to obtain exp. For all intents and purposes you were level 30 (or whatever level) and obtained exp as such. The exp wasn't GOOD but you still got it.

[Rentahamster]

A cap is a cap isn't it? Even at rank 42, if you are CAPPED at r30, by definition you shouldn't be getting SP. Can someone confirm how it was in CoP? I'm pretty sure that if you went into a lvl 30 Promy on a rank 40 job, you didn't get XP.

You still got EXP for level sync in FF11, I don't see why it can't be any different. As long as you kill mobs that are rank-appropriate (real level or synced level) it doesn't matter since you are killing mobs that are challenging.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

You still got EXP for level sync in FF11, I don't see why it can't be any different. As long as you kill mobs that are rank-appropriate (real level or synced level) it doesn't matter since you are killing mobs that are challenging.

Then it seems like it could be exploitable. There would no longer be incentive to go level my 45 lancer on appropriate mobs when I could just sit in a dungeon that caps my level and gives me the same SP.

[Rentahamster]

Then it seems like it could be exploitable. There would no longer be incentive to go level my 45 lancer on appropriate mobs when I could just sit in a dungeon that caps my level and gives me the same SP.

It was exploitable in FF11, yes, with Astral burns and what not.

It depends if it's an exploit or not if the relative difficulty of doing the dungeon is easier than grinding at your actual level. If there is a glaring disparity, then yeah, it's an exploit, but there can be countermeasures in place to avoid that as well as game balance adjustments.

But seeing as how dungeon content is supposed to be harder than normal grinding, I don't see how it's much of an exploit.

[Lerris]

If you are capped, by definition you can't go higher. I assume it would work the same as being capped at 50.

In FFXI, characters under level cap still earned exp on mobs that gave exp. They still gained their levels. But the cap prevented that level from manifesting until they were out of the level cap.