PLEASE, stop teaching/telling new healers to DPS

[Euphe]

Healing and DPSing is easy as hell. Anyone who can't do it just needs to practice BUT in moderation. Notice how I listed them (healing AND DPSing) DPS should ALWAYS come second to healing; this is a static rule that HAS to be followed. If you are new to healing just ask for advice about how to go about it from your FC mates or friends that know. If not then keep reading. First thing is first defensive boosting your tank. WHM should always cast Stoneskin (SS) before the pull (not while the tank is pulling). If you do this it will buy you a couple of seconds to dps initially but I recomend only applying your aero spells (DoTs) then remove Cleric's Stance (CS). Follow up heal and recast SS + a regen if there are a lot of mobs leftover (AND as long as tank has decent threat built up). After that you will have a couple of moments to re-pop Cleric's Stance and casting some Stone IIs, or use Holy (ONLY if you can spare the mana) then re-apply your aeros again and remove CS. This is called "Stance Dancing" and if you desire so badly to DPS then you MUST do it; otherwise you will end up killing everyone. The equation is simpler for SCHs but basically the same in theory. Your fairy (Eos) acts as a "regen" so you can actually dps more as a SCH imo. Many consider it a waste but I'm pretty sure that Adloqium will still absorb damage even if it doesn't actually heal the target (I could be completely wrong about this, however so don't quote me on it). As SCH you should be able to get away with casting SS + Adlo before pulls. This will give you enough time to dump out all of your DoTs on the target. Then you can either cast Ruin II for the blind or just spam Ruin I (keep in mind that you are going to be pissing mana into the wind with spamming it though). In either case you will just need to remove CS to heal if your fairy begins to struggle. For groups pulls Eye for an Eye is wonderful and for bosses just couple E4E + Virus and your tank will be in "God Mode" for a bit (but just remember that blowing it early may cost you if the boss has a "rage mode"). This is the best advice and how I handle my dungeons as a healer in both jobs. There's many other variations out there that could be better than my own but how I do it works for me and I don't mind telling those who ask. I don't like coming on the forums and seeing tanks upset because people aren't taking the time to learn properly or practice and I'm hoping new healers read this and take it into consideration

[Sessurea]

I think OP is referring to: inexperienced ( or bad I guess..)people who can't judge/predict/gauge their parties ability/incoming attacks. Basically he's saying "if you don't know for certain that you CAN dps, then don't". Good healers coming in here saying how easy it is for them, in this context couldn't be more irrelevant.

Gonna take some stupid example: Healer dpsing instead of healing mountain busters >8D. And yes I have seen this...

[Mercurias]

I play SCH and have leveled CNJ enough to unlock WHM. Normally I only will use a DPS skill if I am utterly positive that my team is safe for a few seconds, and even then I try to use skills that are either DoT or have a debuff attached so that there is more bang for the buck. Gotta keep focusing on healing, though. My usual hierarchy of priorities is: Survival (when the healer dies, the team soon follows most if the time), then healing, then planning for needing to heal, then buffing/debuffing, then DPS if I have the spare MP.

When with a group I know, then things can become more fluid. I have leeway to spam a few other helpful spells, and even on PUGs a quick Repose can prevent a party wipe, but overall I try to keep to the healer roll when I'm with people plan on me doing just that.

[Heofonum]

There is mentality here that makes it more bias against heals that can't seem to find the skill the dps when they can- As a healer main, I can confirm for you all: there is much rage from dps and tanks if Holy is not used on Plumes, fast WP/AK runs, etc. You can assume what you like which type of healer I am. Doesn't matter since you're focusing on the wrong point and trying to troll.

Back to the OP and his point is that new healers, not new players, are the guilty party in thinking they have to dps. This idea is wrong. It's a warped, brainless THING crawling around in peoples heads that heals have to dps.

We do not have to. No mechanic, boss fight, encounter, primal, raid, trash or dungeon is designed that heals have to contribute in damage. It is NOT a defining line between good healers and bad healers. I laughed at this.

We heal, you're alive. That's all you need to concern about with us.

Reposting for those that can't read a forum, are new to the healer role or new to the game.

To properly educate you further:

You give me a healer that knows how to "cleric stance dance", I'll give you one that instead practiced precasts to raid aoe damage and notable single target attacks.

You give me a healer that "refreshes his aero and aero II", I'll counter with one that upkeeps his regen and watches his raids enmity to note who to heal in case of aggro pulls.

You give me a healer that "needs to use Holy for large groups", I'll giggle and let you have a healer that times a fight properly to maximize Shrouds mana refresh and hate reduce.

...who can mentally time attacks for great stoneskins...
...who knows when to kite and when to just heal through damage...
...etc etc.

Stop teaching new players the wrong things. Sick of this thread.

[Anienai]

Reposting for those that can't read a forum, are new to the healer role or new to the game.

To properly educate you further:

You give me a healer that knows how to "cleric stance dance", I'll give you one that instead practiced precasts to raid aoe damage and notable single target attacks.

You give me a healer that "refreshes his aero and aero II", I'll counter with one that upkeeps his regen and watches his raids enmity to note who to heal in case of aggro pulls.

You give me a healer that "needs to use Holy for large groups", I'll giggle and let you have a healer that times a fight properly to maximize Shrouds mana refresh and hate reduce.

...who can mentally time attacks for great stoneskins...
...who knows when to kite and when to just heal through damage...
...etc etc.

Stop teaching new players the wrong things. Sick of this thread.

Way too short to be this angry.

[Heofonum]

Way too short to be this angry.

Bahaha. Agreed!

[SeraviEdalborez]

Reposting for those that can't read a forum, are new to the healer role or new to the game.

To properly educate you further:

You give me a healer that knows how to "cleric stance dance", I'll give you one that instead practiced precasts to raid aoe damage and notable single target attacks.

You give me a healer that "refreshes his aero and aero II", I'll counter with one that upkeeps his regen and watches his raids enmity to note who to heal in case of aggro pulls.

You give me a healer that "needs to use Holy for large groups", I'll giggle and let you have a healer that times a fight properly to maximize Shrouds mana refresh and hate reduce.

...who can mentally time attacks for great stoneskins...
...who knows when to kite and when to just heal through damage...
...etc etc.

Stop teaching new players the wrong things. Sick of this thread.

Or a good healer could just do everything. It's not A or B.

[Mercurias]

Snippity snip snip

I would have read this if he hadn't linked his own post and opened the new post the way he did. Too bad.

[Heofonum]

Or a good healer could just do everything. It's not A or B.

"Teaching new players" a bit over your head?

[SeraviEdalborez]

"Teaching new players" a bit over your head?

Implying one skill is more valuable than another is silly when both are valuable, and something I don't think new players should be taught.