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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Or a good healer could just do everything. It's not A or B.
    "Teaching new players" a bit over your head?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heofonum View Post
    "Teaching new players" a bit over your head?
    Implying one skill is more valuable than another is silly when both are valuable, and something I don't think new players should be taught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Implying one skill is more valuable than another is silly when both are valuable, and something I don't think new players should be taught.
    But as a healer, your healing IS more valuable than your dps. The best experienced healers will do both and will be better for it, this is absolutely true. But for instance, I wouldn't say "I'm a great writer", write a sub-par novel and illustrate it beautifully. That is being a bad writer and a good artist. If you can't manage the switch between dps and heal, you are a bad healer. Doesn't matter how good your dps is, it doesn't make up for it. Now, if I wrote an amazing story AND made those beautiful drawings, it would only add to it, and it would be better than without them, but to say that AS A HEALER, that your healing is not more valuable would be a lie and a terrible one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Implying one skill is more valuable than another is silly when both are valuable, and something I don't think new players should be taught.
    If you're a healer, your heals are more valuable than your DPS. If you don't DPS, you can still do your job. If you don't heal, you are not doing your job.

    And this goes vice versa for casters. As a BLM, I can say with 100% certainty that Fire I is more valuable and important than Physick.

    Implying that healers DPS is just as valuable as their healing and teaching that to new players will result in them developing into terrible healers when they hit 50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    Implying that healers DPS is just as valuable as their healing and teaching that to new players will result in them developing into terrible healers when they hit 50.
    Best way to learn how to heal is to DPS. Because if you let your tank die from doing it too much, you should realize that was too much.

    Not trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Best way to learn how to heal is to DPS. Because if you let your tank die from doing it too much, you should realize that was too much.

    Not trolling.
    Not...um...not even close.

    You can't go into a healing role with dps as your platform for performance. This isn't to say "dps players will never understand healing". No, it's considering any healing job as a dps class. Which is essentially what you're saying is the correct approach to being a good healer. Might as well continue down that one-way road of oxymoronic logic and state that to be a good dps, you must first know tank young grasshopper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Best way to learn how to heal is to DPS. Because if you let your tank die from doing it too much, you should realize that was too much.

    Not trolling.
    Why is the "best" way to learn doing the wrong thing and having to relearn (harder thing to do) because you let the tank die and "realized"? When you can learn the right way to begin with and gradually ease into dps when you are more comfortable? Honestly, it's really easy to ease into this from a pure heal standpoint. Because you get that down, then you get bored, so you toss on an Aero, then you start doing more and knowing your own limits WITHOUT having had to suffer a tank death to learn it.

    For people that are completely new to healing, I would advise a pure healing -> heal and dps without cleric stance -> heal and dps with cleric stance progression as comfort allows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessOfSwords View Post
    For people that are completely new to healing, I would advise a pure healing -> heal and dps without cleric stance -> heal and dps with cleric stance progression as comfort allows.
    This.

    Emphasis on pure healing times a billion, to include all minimal nuances therein.

    Be a great healer before you start trying to cross-class and act outside the role you purposely rolled to to heal. I've never heard of a player rolling a healing specific toon for the sole purpose of learning how to dps. Jump a thread over and join the WHM tank with that mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heofonum View Post

    Jump a thread over and join the WHM tank with that mentality.
    Oh my... Nonono.
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