Dark Knight - Great Sword or Great Scythe poll

[L-D-Omlette]

Sword and Shield. DPS job off of GLD. THM as requirement. Make it the mirrored opposite of PLD in reverence of Cecil

[kasuke06]

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Okay. I'll put this another way. how do you like your pointy objects: pointed towards the enemy for cutting them, or pointed towards yourself so you can cut yourself and be all emo and deep while you listen to whiny kids who have everything whine about their life and how it's soooo awesome but they hate it.

and the nunchaku might have been a flail for threshing rice. possibly. according to wikipedia. I can literally go and change that right now if I feel like it. It could just as easily have originated by some guy putting a sting through two sticks and deciding not to give up the first time he hit himself in the groin.

the rapier has always been a good weapon. it originated when there was a pressing need to get through lighter armor whilst maintaining ones own speed and leaving the other hand free for such things as pistols, which is what it excels at, being a lighter weapon that can easily thrust through most non-metal armors after you've fired your only shot from your flintlock(or if you're rich, a wheel-lock) pistol/musket.(no, they did not have rifles, as that is a term reserved for long guns with a rifled barrel.)

the scythe meanwhile, excels at being a farmers tool. And convincing the simple that it is better than a real weapon.

[Skyhound]

Alright let's lay this scythe talk to rest:

Scythes WERE used as weapons, but by peasants who had no means of obtaining proper weapons. A lot of people who study classical swordsmanship always over look this fact because they forget that they are actually practicing what nobles would have learned. Peasants who were drafted into conflicts had to use whatever was available to them, which skews the entire "Scythe as a weapon" debate.

Death also is known to harvest souls so using that as an argument is quite moot. He was literally a farmer, not some bad ass warrior demon that games love to portray him as.

ONE FINAL THING: This is a fantasy game, arguing what's practical and what isn't is a complete waste of time. For example: Dual Wielding is commonly considered as too much effort for very little advantage and was never used on the battlefield. Yet people will literally have a heart attack if THF doesn't dual wield.

All of that being said, I would only want DRK to use a scythe if it were styled better than XI's scythes. THOSE look like farmer's tools, I would prefer a much larger blade. Aside from that: Greatsword or my personal favorite would be Gunblade. I'm in love with the idea of DRK using a Gunblade at close range, storing drained HP in shells that increase attack power when fired at the same time as slashing; not unlike the gunblade system used in FF8.

[Marxam]

It need to be a great sword so tanks can block with it as well as parry. Yeah, that's right I said tanks. What? You want more dps classes and longer que times and more threads about how there's a shortage on tanks?

[Alacran]

It's been said a few times already but scythes are already in the game as a Botanist tool. As such it stands to reason there would be more work needed to to remove the item from that class only to give it to another. Should a new class of scythes be proposed such as War scythe they were actually reconstructed tools that had more in common with pole arms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_scythe

As for those that believe that the Dark Knight aspect requires such an ominous harvesting tool for a weapon, once more the job is Dark Knight. Not Death Knight, Necromancer, Flick Reaper, Black guard, or any other combination aforementioned. As a long time fan of the FF series i can.t help but feel many people simply do not know what a Final Fantasy Dark Knight was all about. Just want my Dark Sword, magic, and plate armor back.

[Duelle]

Great Sword. Not only for lore reasons, but also because we need a Great Sword class already.

Dark Knight would make a perfect debuff/DPS hybrid, with loots of weakining or even crowd control skills based on his HP levels and HP sacrificing for a bit of damage.

I'm of the opinion that if DRK won't stem from GLA, Ala Mhigo holds the key to a great sword-class and DRK by extension. Their flag has a griffon holding a greatsword, so yeah...

[Wolf_Gang]

Great Sword

I wouldn't mind a scythe as long they go crazy with the design. Which is what they did not do in FFXI:
The only thing this guy is farming is cabbages.


Let's face it. SE isn't going to give us huge hulking scythes:

[Lamentations]

For kasuke I wont bother to itemize this response but as far as "practical" goes declaring a weapon which has a sharp edge only facing the user as "impractical" shows a failure of training depth in that particular weapon and not in it's design.

I might also discuss at length the merits of taking a knife or a sword to a crossbow or rifle fight but that speaks for itself I hope.

You simply made my point for me mentioning large rocks or sticks of any size.

At the end of the day it's a "fantasy game", and trying to define practicality of weapons in a game where people wave their hands and conjur fire out of thin air is a whole other topic in the concept of practicality.

This leads us to the visible fact that you don't like scythes, don't want them in xiv, I get it, they are farm tools.

The next time my blm gf uses ice in some desert environment in xiv, ill remind her how "impractical" it was due to the fact that the humidity is too low.

[Eggnook24]

Some of the Voidsent carry scythes, and I'd imagine a Dark Knight would possibly dabble in that story arc, so the mechanics for the "Farmer's Tool" are there.

[Lamentations]

Great Sword

I wouldn't mind a scythe as long they go crazy with the design. Which is what they did not do in FFXI:
The only thing this guy is farming is cabbages.


Let's face it. SE isn't going to give us huge hulking scythes:

Well at least the elvaan is well armored to keep him alive fighting those deadly cabbages, the second picture is going to make Kasuke mad, because it has sharp edges and points facing somewhere else besides the chick.