Quote Originally Posted by Delsai View Post
In all honesty there is no game right now that truly satisfy the hardcore crowd. Every game no matter the difficulty the hardcore crowd will continue to moan and cry.
That's because "Hardcore" MMO players don't actually know what they want. You can apply it to the MMO genre as a whole. If you take the average player and put something there that they genuinely find difficult and challenging there's always going to be someone who decries whatever MMO it is as being "Casual" (Casual has nothing to do with difficulty and instead means something people can jump in and have fun with because it's a video game not a job) You could, in the current market, put out something that makes a P.K. permadeath, zero-quest, >1% drop rate MMO and there will still be people sitting there complaining that it's casual friendly for any given reason.