Confirmation of Uncapped Raids. Confirmation of a terrible decision.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

It's the game's problem and why it's failing. Gimps are given free passes. There's no challenge. What challenge there is, Yoshida gives gimps a get out of fail free card and lets them take their R50's in.

Some R50's are so terrible that they don't even deserve good R30 gear. They've levelled like buffoons on levelinks and behests and don't know how to play.

Now they don't have to know how to play. they can just take their buffoon-levelled job into the R30 zone and just crush the boss.

For the rank 50 zone where they can't take R70's into, well there's ways to cheat that difficulty too. Thaumaturges and archers.

These players spend their entire careers never having to actually play well. We're tired of suffering players like that.

Yeah it's called making the game accessible to everyone. There's always going to be good players and bad players, so putting restrictions on things isn't going to make everyone a good player.

[darkstarpoet1]

You can still help your friend if the game synced your level to rank 30 for the duration of the dungeon.

i already stated i would be fine with it if they level synced it. the point is they are not and people are saying they want to exempt r50's from getting into the r30 dungeon at all. if a friend needs help there is no reasoning behind people telling me i cannot help them. it is short sighted.

that's why i stated they have just as good of reasons for not capping it as they have for capping it. se chose not to and people need to realize that.

[TheVedis]

i already stated i would be fine with it if they level synced it. the point is they are not and people are saying they want to exempt r50's from getting into the r30 dungeon at all. if a friend needs help there is no reasoning behind people telling me i cannot help them. it is short sighted.

that's why i stated they have just as good of reasons for not capping it as they have for capping it. se chose not to and people need to realize that.

no people arent saying to exclude it
they are saying you just shouldnt be allwoed to go in at 50 at all
they want to force you down to 30 so that you cant make the dungeon easier if you "choose" to do it

[darkstarpoet1]

thats fine for level 50s, they are guaranteed to have challenging content, but levels 30s? most of them will not have challenging content, unless they go out of their way to force it. the target is level 25-30.

As for dark poet, your level 21 friend probably wont be able to enter till he is is 25, he will also need more than just you, he will need to find 2 other people who are level 25 or higher, just to enter.
So what you have is a situation where, at the minimum requirement, they will have enough to actually win, although it may be difficult.
the absolute lowest way to get in the place is with 4 level 25s, who were designed to be able to complete this content, although it may be very challenging. Throwing your level 50 in, serves only the purpose of making it easy mode. you arent helping your friend who couldnt find people, you are only making the mission easy.

If they altered your level to 30, you would be helping your friend who couldnt get in, and at the same time maintaining challenge.

to the person who said they can use thier high level abilities even if scaled down, everyone can use high level abilities, thier effects are scaled down, and your total abilities are lower, so while you may give a small advantage, its the type of advantage that is already figured into all game content.

i have responded to you twice in this same thread saying that i would be fine if they synced me down to 30.............geez are you people that rude that you have to attack someone for wanting to help another.

the majority in this thread have said nothing about syncing down they said if you are a 50 you should not be allowed to enter.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

Or it's called babysitting the WoW kids and giving everyone gold stars.
Tired of losers being told they're winners. Not how life works. Not how games work. Not how challenge works.

Some people shouldn't be told they're successes. That's just a part of what makes succeeding meaningful.

Well if SE wants to make money, then they have to appeal to everyone. Good players and bad players. You have a choice NOT to play with bad players you know. Also someone taking their R50 through the R30 dungeon doesn't affect your challenge, especially if you have the choice not to add a R50 into your party.

[Duelle]

Way to halfass more filler content that will be completed in two weeks.

Way to overreact.

Better yet, chill and move away from the mindset that these two (2) dungeons are somehow going to last us into next year as the game continues to get developed. That's plainly unrealistic, not matter how you slice it.

[Renshi]

Hah! I see what you did thar Dick! =D

wait, is Dick a surname for Richard? That's what I remember. Anyway that sucks, so...

Hah! I see what you did thar Ricky! =D

[Rentahamster]

But please. Lets quantify the results. Go vote: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...402#post193402

lol we don't need another thread about this.

[Peregrine]

Well if SE wants to make money, then they have to appeal to everyone. Good players and bad players. You have a choice NOT to play with bad players you know. Also someone taking their R50 through the R30 dungeon doesn't affect your challenge, especially if you have the choice not to add a R50 into your party.

R50's squatting the R30 challenge does affect my challenge. It degrades its meaning if any buffoon can just spam behests or shardbot to 45 and then succeed.

Let the failures fail. Let the winners win. Don't let the failures pretend to win by going around designed challenge. Make the winners fight fairly for their title.

This could have been an opportunity to reward good R30 players, which are more valuable to the game than poor R50 players.

I will say it again:
A good R30 player deserves more reward than a bad R50

I'm sure the horde of bad R50's begs do differ.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

lol we don't need another thread about this.

Its not a thread, it's a poll.