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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    lets be honest, do you really think itl do that?
    seriously
    I hope it does. What's the point of the job system if you are not required to use it in instanced party areas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    I hope it does. What's the point of the job system if you are not required to use it in instanced party areas?
    i could write a whole page on this but ill save that for another time
    it really has nothing to do with this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post

    So this scenario is unrealistic?
    Do you have corresponding data over a lengthy period of time to prove that this is a problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Never once have I said that. What I want is to be challenged at r50. Period. That is all I have ever said. I'm getting that out of the r50 dungeon, but I am not going to run a capped r30 dungeon for gear I don't need.

    thats fine for level 50s, they are guaranteed to have challenging content, but levels 30s? most of them will not have challenging content, unless they go out of their way to force it. the target is level 25-30.

    As for dark poet, your level 21 friend probably wont be able to enter till he is is 25, he will also need more than just you, he will need to find 2 other people who are level 25 or higher, just to enter.
    So what you have is a situation where, at the minimum requirement, they will have enough to actually win, although it may be difficult.
    the absolute lowest way to get in the place is with 4 level 25s, who were designed to be able to complete this content, although it may be very challenging. Throwing your level 50 in, serves only the purpose of making it easy mode. you arent helping your friend who couldnt find people, you are only making the mission easy.

    If they altered your level to 30, you would be helping your friend who couldnt get in, and at the same time maintaining challenge.

    to the person who said they can use thier high level abilities even if scaled down, everyone can use high level abilities, thier effects are scaled down, and your total abilities are lower, so while you may give a small advantage, its the type of advantage that is already figured into all game content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Think about the whole game population and not just you. There are plenty of other players who need the rank 30 gear to rank up their rank 30 classes. Just because you don't need it doesn't mean the rest of the population doesn't either.
    How does me getting it just for fun's sake diminish their ability to get it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    How does me getting it just for fun's sake diminish their ability to get it?
    because he doesnt want you to have it, thats why

    its all about people wanting everyone to play the way they want them to play and not have freedom


    as ive said a few times

    its not the targeted audience of this dungeon who are wanting the cap

    its people who are wanting it to be an endgame dungeon(cureent endgame that is, yes i know there will be a cap raise eventualy)

    the people who only have r30 characters dont care about level caps or who has what gear

    its elitists who care

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    your level 50 don't need it of course. But you might be running this dungeon to get gears for your other classes/jobs. Therefore just steamrolling through content the easy way on your high level, getting rewards for no effort. It's called lazyness and king-kids generation syndrom.
    Again, I spent the EFFORT when leveling my class to 50. I don't need r30 gear just to level a sub-job that is going to be tossed aside. EFFORT still does not equal REWARD in this case as it is more efficient to just level the class to 50 and then get the r50 gear, which I may already have because I am 50 already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post
    lol im amazed you have friends in your ls...
    /thumbs up. Thanks for clearing that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    because he doesnt want you to have it, thats why
    Again, you make statements that you think is my position when it is not.

    I do want you to have it. I want everyone to have the best items. All I ask, is that they earn it by putting in the proper effort required for good items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Again, you make statements that you think is my position when it is not.

    I do want you to have it. I want everyone to have the best items. All I ask, is that they earn it by putting in the proper effort required for good items.
    i earned it by doing the dungeon
    why should you care what rank i go in as

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