[HELP!!!] I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO!

[Yurimi]

Ok, enjoy playing your F2P game in the disguise of a monthly sub model because apparently now a days people are willing to pay a monthly sub AND spend money on micro transactions.

Outside of the minions and mounts (and not many at that) I dont see anything in the way of micro transactions I cant buy gear (not even for vanity) bag slots raid resets or anything of the like but hey I guess thats my opinion. I am enjoying the game rather well thank you ^-^ been playing it for a couple weeks and its refreshing (especially not having seen 1 RMT tell in the entire 2 weeks I have played). As for ARR I dont hate the game I am just bored of it. It did good with getting me interested but sadly for me it failed to hold it. I am not saying its a bad game its just not something I can justify trying to convince someone to play. =P

[Psychosamm]

Wait... Player housing is coming in 2.2?

[Nethermancy]

Outside of the minions and mounts (and not many at that) I dont see anything in the way of micro transactions I cant buy gear (not even for vanity) bag slots raid resets or anything of the like but hey I guess thats my opinion. I am enjoying the game rather well thank you ^-^ been playing it for a couple weeks and its refreshing (especially not having seen 1 RMT tell in the entire 2 weeks I have played). As for ARR I dont hate the game I am just bored of it. It did good with getting me interested but sadly for me it failed to hold it. I am not saying its a bad game its just not something I can justify trying to convince someone to play. =P

thats what i said!!! but now im the bad guy for trying to look for a reason to stay >.<

Wait... Player housing is coming in 2.2?

that is my understanding... and if it isnt... then i guess i really have no reason for why we have "Gil"

the thing is i loved FFXI and WoW, payed for both for almost a decade. untill Post WOTLK drove away my family and Abysea killed my interest in FFXI...

in FFXI i joined just as CoP launched... i had all the content from the vanilla release> RotZilart > CoP to do and i finaly completedit jsut as ToAH came out.
ToAH lasted me untill about 5 weeks before WotGodess launched and when it did OMFG i had content up the WAzzoo to do... and hte thing is most of it was never invalidated by new content..
i was still doing CoP missions for friends and new LS members..
i was still doing SEA / Sky / Dynamis / Enh / ect ect ect with new friends and LS members...

the point is... for me there was VERY few times i ran out of Content for what ever expansion before the next expansion came out... and was fun and worth while to revisit the older content with fresh people.

In FFXIV... it feels like im given a week or two worth of content hiding behind Time locks to be dished out every 3-4 months...

would you pay $20 at the store AND THEN $15 a month to play FF7 if you had to wait a month between discs?

( dont you dare say "make an alt to get around the content lockouts! if i wanted to level a buJillion alts there are other games available that do it better. all of which let me send mail between alts among other things!...)

[Odd]

in FFXI i joined just as CoP launched... i had all the content from the vanilla release> RotZilart > CoP to do and i finaly completedit jsut as ToAH came out.
ToAH lasted me untill about 5 weeks before WotGodess launched and when it did OMFG i had content up the WAzzoo to do... and hte thing is most of it was never invalidated by new content..

So you joined FFXI after the second expansion pack. Let's have a look at the first year of FFXI.

- May 16, 2002: PS2 version released.

- Aug 8, 2002: Rank 5 Missions (including the Shadow Lord fight) were implemented, but with the level cap at 50, no one had beaten it.

- Sep 12, 2002: The level cap is raised to 55. High Level Notorious Monsters, such as Behemoth, are added to their respective areas.

- Nov 7, 2002: PC ver. released.

- Nov 26, 2002: Level cap raised to 60.

- Apr 15, 2003: Rise of Zilart preparation update. The level cap now became 65.

- Apr 17, 2003: Rise of the Zilart goes on sale.

- May 16, 2003: Final Fantasy XI Completes 1 Year of Service


And sky didn't even come with RoZ, it came out two months later. So basically, not one thing you loved about FFXI was in the game in its first year. That game was bare bones in its infancy. I would argue that we have far more content than FFXI did after 7 months. I started XI shortly after CoP was released, so like you I had a ton to do, and content lasted until the next expansion. But ARR hasn't had a single expansion yet.

[Yurimi]

So you joined FFXI after the second expansion pack. Let's have a look at the first year of FFXI.

- May 16, 2002: PS2 version released.

- Aug 8, 2002: Rank 5 Missions (including the Shadow Lord fight) were implemented, but with the level cap at 50, no one had beaten it.

- Sep 12, 2002: The level cap is raised to 55. High Level Notorious Monsters, such as Behemoth, are added to their respective areas.

- Nov 7, 2002: PC ver. released.

- Nov 26, 2002: Level cap raised to 60.

- Apr 15, 2003: Rise of Zilart preparation update. The level cap now became 65.

- Apr 17, 2003: Rise of the Zilart goes on sale.

- May 16, 2003: Final Fantasy XI Completes 1 Year of Service


And sky didn't even come with RoZ, it came out two months later. So basically, not one thing you loved about FFXI was in the game in its first year. That game was bare bones in its infancy. I would argue that we have far more content than FFXI did after 7 months. I started XI shortly after CoP was released, so like you I had a ton to do, and content lasted until the next expansion. But ARR hasn't had a single expansion yet.

you realize FFXI was horizontal progression and not vertical so content kept adding up not expiring like it will in this game so if your thinking next xpac we will have loads more hate to spoil it for you but you will have whatever that xpac offers at launch. XI didnt outdate content, this game does.

[Yuichi]

Outside of the minions and mounts (and not many at that) I dont see anything in the way of micro transactions I cant buy gear (not even for vanity) bag slots raid resets or anything of the like but hey I guess thats my opinion. I am enjoying the game rather well thank you ^-^ been playing it for a couple weeks and its refreshing (especially not having seen 1 RMT tell in the entire 2 weeks I have played). As for ARR I dont hate the game I am just bored of it. It did good with getting me interested but sadly for me it failed to hold it. I am not saying its a bad game its just not something I can justify trying to convince someone to play. =P

You can buy level 90 characters. Maybe it didnt go live yet but it is coming. yes you can buy gear for vanity(helms for now but be honest more is coming). Raid resets I have a bad feeling it is coming. Bag slots well why when you can easily buy it. RMT...yeah it must be nice. I do get annoyed.

For the record to race change, name change, faction change, stuff like that is def micro transactions and started in f2p games. I hate that it is there but every mmo is following it now so no stooping the train. now the min every MMO follows the buy an instant high level character is the day I quit.

[Yurimi]

You can buy level 90 characters. Maybe it didnt go live yet but it is coming. yes you can buy gear for vanity(helms for now but be honest more is coming). Raid resets I have a bad feeling it is coming. Bag slots well why when you can easily buy it. RMT...yeah it must be nice. I do get annoyed.

For the record to race change, name change, faction change, stuff like that is def micro transactions and started in f2p games. I hate that it is there but every mmo is following it now so no stooping the train. now the min every MMO follows the buy an instant high level character is the day I quit.

You can indeed buy an item to skip everything not related to the latest expansion but if you had read the interview regarding it you would know that they chose a price point for it to discourage someone going ok just skip all this and devalue it... as for the helms I didnt know but upon looking into it I guess they are but even then I am not exactly zomg must have ugly heads. It doesnt affect my gameplay and honestly if it takes off, seeing as this game is copying the success from other games, do you think it will be long before this game follows suit ? isnt that kind of the thing with vanity slots ? its successful how can we make money off it ? I am not exactly sure what your issue is with WoW or why saying go back to WoW is an insult its not like its a bad game, its good enough for this game and hundreds more to use it as their template.

As for race change faction change world transfer this game already offers them so I guess you can enjoy playing your already F2P game in disguise (please see the extremly long thread about buying fantasia)

[Yuichi]

good points

Because WOW was one of the first to do these micro transactions in a sub model. The name change and such I hate as I stated but it is in every mmo now so nothing I can do. Like I said when they follow suit with instant buy a high lvl char I will quit. Thats my problem with WOW on top of the lore breaking every chance they get(I was big into the wow lore) buy a high lvl char. I dont wanna go more into it so we both dont offend someone and they report and we get a ban, and this forum has no pm feature for some reason so I will agree to disagree.

[Yurimi]

Because WOW was one of the first to do these micro transactions in a sub model. The name change and such I hate as I stated but it is in every mmo now so nothing I can do. Like I said when they follow suit with instant buy a high lvl char I will quit. Thats my problem with WOW on top of the lore breaking every chance they get(I was big into the wow lore) buy a high lvl char. I dont wanna go more into it so we both dont offend someone and they report and we get a ban, and this forum has no pm feature for some reason so I will agree to disagree.

We may have to though I will say I am also playing FFXI though not anywhere near as hardcore as I used to. I dont wish failure on this game its simply not what I personally am looking for in an MMO.

[Nethermancy]

So you joined FFXI after the second expansion pack. Let's have a look at the first year of FFXI.

- May 16, 2002: PS2 version released.

- Aug 8, 2002: Rank 5 Missions (including the Shadow Lord fight) were implemented, but with the level cap at 50, no one had beaten it.

- Sep 12, 2002: The level cap is raised to 55. High Level Notorious Monsters, such as Behemoth, are added to their respective areas.

- Nov 7, 2002: PC ver. released.

- Nov 26, 2002: Level cap raised to 60.

- Apr 15, 2003: Rise of Zilart preparation update. The level cap now became 65.

- Apr 17, 2003: Rise of the Zilart goes on sale.

- May 16, 2003: Final Fantasy XI Completes 1 Year of Service


And sky didn't even come with RoZ, it came out two months later. So basically, not one thing you loved about FFXI was in the game in its first year. That game was bare bones in its infancy. I would argue that we have far more content than FFXI did after 7 months. I started XI shortly after CoP was released, so like you I had a ton to do, and content lasted until the next expansion. But ARR hasn't had a single expansion yet.

so i should leave and never come back then is what yoru saying? because what it sounds like is that...

FXIV will only have a small amount of "Relevant" material at "Level Cap"... where FFXI's horizontal progression added tons of "Relevant" content..
FFXIV is designed to Replace chunks of content, invalidating what came before...
FFXI took 2+ years for it to reach the point where i joined...
FFXIV should not be played until 2016?

You can indeed buy an item to skip everything not related to the latest expansion but if you had read the interview regarding it you would know that they chose a price point for it to discourage someone going ok just skip all this and devalue it... as for the helms I didnt know but upon looking into it I guess they are but even then I am not exactly zomg must have ugly heads. It doesnt affect my gameplay and honestly if it takes off, seeing as this game is copying the success from other games, do you think it will be long before this game follows suit ? isnt that kind of the thing with vanity slots ? its successful how can we make money off it ? I am not exactly sure what your issue is with WoW or why saying go back to WoW is an insult its not like its a bad game, its good enough for this game and hundreds more to use it as their template.

As for race change faction change world transfer this game already offers them so I guess you can enjoy playing your already F2P game in disguise (please see the extremly long thread about buying fantasia)

i think the price point is very fair... either pay 60 dollars to skip all the content you have done already on every alt.. or pay 15 dollars and spend a week or two leveling the new alt to 90 possibly finding out you dont really care for the character...

Because WOW was one of the first to do these micro transactions in a sub model. The name change and such I hate as I stated but it is in every mmo now so nothing I can do. Like I said when they follow suit with instant buy a high lvl char I will quit. Thats my problem with WOW on top of the lore breaking every chance they get(I was big into the wow lore) buy a high lvl char. I dont wanna go more into it so we both dont offend someone and they report and we get a ban, and this forum has no pm feature for some reason so I will agree to disagree.

I identify with my characters in every MMO i play/played because i love thier names ( when SWTOR force merged worlds and i had to rename ALL of my characters they lost my buisness forever, have not been back even to try F2P mode)

so before WoW offered "race" and "Name" change services i literally Deleted characters to reroll them different races.. their service was a much needed breath of fresh air for people like me that enjoy RP in an RPG...

as for the "Instant 90" i think its fekin Awesome... because now i can jump in on Old characters on Old dead servers ( tied to other servers because thier lack of recruits for guilds and a viable Auction house is why the servers died... and are now tied together with Xrealm Guilds and AH's) and skip the OLD AS DIRT content that is completely invalidated and chewed through over and over by myself... so i can jump right in and play on that server like i had never left!! Long Live Bruticus, the Destroyer! (of little gnomish toes!)
and his queen Ravage, the All Tauren Steak Chef Extraordinaire! HELLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO WoD

We may have to though I will say I am also playing FFXI though not anywhere near as hardcore as I used to. I dont wish failure on this game its simply not what I personally am looking for in an MMO.

im starting to feel the same way, i wonder what it will be like in 2016.