New dungeons confirmed i55?

[PlanckZero]

Has there been any confirmation that these dungeons even drop the new tome?

These dungeons are likely on the same level as the current hard mode dungeons and PS, hell they're likely even easier since so many people whined about PS that they're nerfing it down.

Unless it's been said somewhere otherwise the assumption should be these dungeons will continue dropping the standard tomes and the new equipment will be farmed elsewhere.

[NeoAmon]

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I'm sure your Ilvl75 healer is better than SCH running around with twin book. I don't like it either but don't make it universal. Any healer who healed twin for an actual kill is already superior and better player than any other healer who did not. Not because Twin is the last boss but because of the pressure she place upon the healers specially when the party is not running around in BiS. In my book this is a fact, I have never ever came across a player who killed twin and was bad, let alone a healer.

At worst twin killers are a bit above average players, at best they are the top 1%.

TL: DR;

It is not the ilvl, it is Twintania.

[Teuciont]

What point is there to these dungeons other than tome grinding if you can fully gear up in coil1-5/through myth both of which will be unlimited in 2.2? Sure they haven't told us what ilevel gear drops from here, but I'd have a hard time believing that it's above 90. Did they even think this through?

[Kuwagami]

Yeah but the lower item level requirement just kind of implies that it's tuned for lower levels than extreme primals, but it offers better rewards, which is kind of backwards. It could be harder than extremes, but then why let people in such poor gear queue for it?

The extrêmes were never meant to be done by everyone in the first place. "Only the best players will be able to defeat them". These were the words from the live leteers pre-2.1

Thus, their purpose is void in the first place, pure vanity (with different stats so some became BiS pre-T5). On the other hand, new dungeons are content everyone is expected to clear at some point. Why keeping everyone out of them with ridiculous iL that aren't needed in the first place ?

Oh and btw, PS is and was doable in minimum iL or not so higher. What made and still makes people fail hard at it is because they are complete idiots who can't learn that zerging and no caring of mechanics is the easiest and quickest way to die.

[Shikiseki]

I wonder, since WP and AK take the i55 gear and CB and HM give the i60 gear, the next logical step would be 75 for the new HM dungeons Halatali and Brayflox (and maybe Pharos will start dropping those as well), which will be a bridge between DL and CT.
I can see the new Amdapor Dungeon around level 85 gear as filler between CT and Coil/Myth. Leaving a huge gap from 90 to probably 110 to create a similar gear-gap like we had pre 2.1

[Mogi]

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+1 this this games about skill not I lvl my BRD is only ilvl 69 and i did better then a i80 BRD who had no clue how or when to use there MP song and this is why i'm happy we have duty finder if the dungeons were all open world lots of ppl be left out....oh look at your i60 junk pass

[Alistaire]

If it's going to be harder than current dungeons, I'm sad it's not higher. Even i55 could be literally all i55 gear and weapon is far more important than other slots. Hell, i55 could be a row of i90 accessories and a lvl 40 weapon, which would suck, also which I've seen people do before in Haukke Manor HM.

[Gilraen]

I'm really ashamed at players these days. I got my first Titan win in Toxotes gear and an Ifrit bow and no, not as a corpse. My first Garuda win was in near all Company gear. In this current environment, though, I'd be kicked out of the party as soon as I spawned in the instance for being 'undergeared'. So the new dungeons are around the same iLevel as the current high level dungeons. I don't see the problem. As long as you know your roles, know how to manage hate (no, using your hate-bleed moves every time their cooldown ends is not managing hate) and can still contribute meaningfully then you've nothing to worry about. ILevel is a crutch if ever I saw one and shouldn't be used for anything. We'd be a better game without it.

[Tiggy]

This was to be expected. Why surprised?

[Nekodar]

I'm really ashamed at players these days. I got my first Titan win in Toxotes gear and an Ifrit bow and no, not as a corpse. My first Garuda win was in near all Company gear. In this current environment, though, I'd be kicked out of the party as soon as I spawned in the instance for being 'undergeared'. So the new dungeons are around the same iLevel as the current high level dungeons. I don't see the problem. As long as you know your roles, know how to manage hate (no, using your hate-bleed moves every time their cooldown ends is not managing hate) and can still contribute meaningfully then you've nothing to worry about. ILevel is a crutch if ever I saw one and shouldn't be used for anything. We'd be a better game without it.

Remember that ilvl restrictions was actually something this community asked for...