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    In my opinion, if the rank 30 gear is really great that you want to wear it at rank 50 and enter the dungeon to do it as a rank 50 so what? Yes you will get it quicker and it will be less of a challenge (possibly- depending if they have anything in place to maybe scale mob levels etc) compared to the other dungeon.

    We are also getting a dungeon for rank 50 that will present more of a challenge for those of appropriate rank. It's content at the end of the day- some achievements will be faster and others slower... isn't that the point? If you really want a challenge then do it on a job of the correct rank. I really don't see what the issue is. No-one is going to force you to go as rank 50 with three other rank 50 friends to do it where it may "spoil your fun".

    I also have no issue of a level cap being introduced, but scaling down gear you are wearing, removing actions from your action bar and having to reset abilities etc is probably more difficult for SE to implement at the moment considering the job and battle overhaul that they are currently working on. Perhaps they will in the future.
    In the meantime they are trying to give players what we have been screaming for- content. I'm not trying to white knight, but seriously arguing that no level cap means that you will do it at rank 50 and have no challenge (where you have a choice to do it as a job of the right rank level) is no argument at all to me.

    Either do it at the correct ranks, or don't do it at all. At least they are starting to put something else in the game other than leves ^^

    If the rank 30 gear is not worth getting for players dependent on how long they will use it for, or its effectiveness later on compared to the rank 50 gear, then simply don't do the lower dungeon. Isn't this the same at the moment for mid-level NM drops? And, this was always the case for NM drops in FFXI. Not everything can be targeted at rank 50 players.
    Just my thought on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shika View Post
    In my opinion, if the rank 30 gear is really great that you want to wear it at rank 50 and enter the dungeon to do it as a rank 50 so what? Yes you will get it quicker and it will be less of a challenge (possibly- depending if they have anything in place to maybe scale mob levels etc) compared to the other dungeon.

    We are also getting a dungeon for rank 50 that will present more of a challenge for those of appropriate rank. It's content at the end of the day- some achievements will be faster and others slower... isn't that the point? If you really want a challenge then do it on a job of the correct rank. I really don't see what the issue is. No-one is going to force you to go as rank 50 with three other rank 50 friends to do it where it may "spoil your fun".

    I also have no issue of a level cap being introduced, but scaling down gear you are wearing, removing actions from your action bar and having to reset abilities etc is probably more difficult for SE to implement at the moment considering the job and battle overhaul that they are currently working on. Perhaps they will in the future.
    In the meantime they are trying to give players what we have been screaming for- content. I'm not trying to white knight, but seriously arguing that no level cap means that you will do it at rank 50 and have no challenge (where you have a choice to do it as a job of the right rank level) is no argument at all to me.

    Either do it at the correct ranks, or don't do it at all. At least they are starting to put something else in the game other than leves ^^

    If the rank 30 gear is not worth getting for players dependent on how long they will use it for, or its effectiveness later on compared to the rank 50 gear, then simply don't do the lower dungeon. Isn't this the same at the moment for mid-level NM drops? And, this was always the case for NM drops in FFXI. Not everything can be targeted at rank 50 players.
    Just my thought on the matter.
    it's not really about gear drops or targeting a specific audience. it's about making the game challenging to those who want a challenge and making it casual for those who want to be spoon fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    it's not really about gear drops or targeting a specific audience. it's about making the game challenging to those who want a challenge and making it casual for those who want to be spoon fed.
    A r50 going back and getting r30 gear isn't spoon feeding. That's like saying The Rock beating you in an arm wrestling match is being spoon fed a victory. He's bigger, badder, and stronger than you because he worked to get there. Don't get mad at the Rock because you can't be bothered to go out and lift a few weights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    A r50 going back and getting r30 gear isn't spoon feeding. That's like saying The Rock beating you in an arm wrestling match is being spoon fed a victory. He's bigger, badder, and stronger than you because he worked to get there. Don't get mad at the Rock because you can't be bothered to go out and lift a few weights.
    its like an nba player wanting to compete in a junior high school game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    its like an nba player wanting to compete in a junior high school game.
    This would be accurate if it was a competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shika View Post
    Either do it at the correct ranks, or don't do it at all. At least they are starting to put something else in the game other than leves ^^

    we will be. it stated + that means above that point and since it is uncapped that can be all the way to 50. if we want to go help others and those others want help that is our business.
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